Yes, but Maegor couldn’t have ridden Balerion while Aegon was alive, nor Aerea while Maegor still lived. The death of either rider or dragon breaks the bond.
That’s not in the books.
This is not true.
She dodges Drogon’s flame. It is near her, but doesn’t engulf her. It burns her hair and her skin. The fact that she has open, leaking burns after this proves she’s not immune to fire.
And the scene were she picks up the hot dragon egg isn’t in the books either.
There’s only one scene in the books that shows she’s immune to fire, and the author explicitly said it’s a one time thing. Dunno why people don’t take his word.
Pretty sure Selmy said her head was literally on fire.
I guess Martin gave the HBO producers the ability to expand her immunity to fire. Or maybe it never came up in the discussion about the show .
Certainly not he only difference between the book and the show. And the Dothraki scene is pretty sweet, I’ll give them that.
In the aftershow chatter/explanations, one of the writers said “Only Targarians can ride dragons, this should have tipped Jon off” about his true identity.
Yeah, it was David Benioff himself (2:56), indicating that this must be true at least in the TV show universe. But he doesn’t follow up with the obvious corollary that Dany must have known of Jon’s ancestry (at least that he’s part Targaryen) or she would never have invited him to ride. Time will tell whether this is significant or just bad writing.
I actually find Dany being immune to fire more consistent and more plausible than a one time thing. I mean it’s fantasy magic either way but since a Targs are special and different and have an unusual relationship to dragons it makes sense that they have fireproof as a superpower. It also cements her as being special just beyond being a targ since viserys didn’t have it.
And even though I can’t justify this logically, I feel like a person having this as an innate trait feels less magicky than people being able to cast spells making then fireproof temporarily. And I prefer fantasy with the last possible magic.
It’s all nonsense anyway but the show’s version of it seems more elegant and thematically consistent to me.
Well there is also no reason for Dany to know about the “only Targaryens can ride dragons” rule either.
I think show Dany is resistant to fire, but has the capability under rare circumstances to use fire/death magic, and exchange death by fire (of others) for temporary special powers – hatching dragon eggs, surviving flames, etc. We’ve only seen her survive flames at times in which she deliberately “sacrificed” others to the fire.
It’s not uncommon in European history for a noble family to have multiple children with the same name, especially if one was already dead when the second one was born.
Maybe, but Benioff says that this should have tipped Jon off. If a Stark should have known about the rule, certainly a Targaryan should have.
Rhaegar would have had to have selected the name before the first Aegon was killed. Rhaegar was killed at the Battle of the Trident, and his wife and children, including the first Aegon, were murdered during the subsequent sack of Kings Landing. Jon was born and Lyanna died sometime after the sack, since Ned was present there and went to find them afterward.
Lyanna actually named Jon after Rhaegar and his wife and children were dead. However, there would seemingly be no reason for her to name him Aegon on her own, especially if a child by another woman had been named Aegon.
(I’m only familiar with the show. Is the timeline different in the books?)
The timeline is the same in the books. Rhaegar dies at the Trident and then following that was when Rhaenys and Aegon (along with their mother, Elia) were killed when King’s Landing was sacked.
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But we don’t have any examples of her being burned or even bothered by flames or heat elsewhere. And the first time we saw her in the series she climbed into a scalding hot tub, without seeming to even notice the heat, against the warning of her servant.
I think it’s fair to say that the mother of dragons has a natural, and very strong resistance to fire.
Yes, I agree! Read my post again.
You make a compelling case in terms of the books. By contrast, the show has shown her having complete immunity to heat and fire in a half a dozen scenes, and one of her names is the “Unburnt.”
In the show, she’s clearly immune to fire. If ever they represent her as being in danger from fire, they will need to provide some kind of on-screen explanation before or after it.
EDIT: I would not go so far as to say that she’s immune to dragon fire, though. I could see the undead dragon cooking her, but I could also see her surviving such a thing.
Is the undead dragon shooting fire? It seems to me to be some sort of magical undead opposite to fire. I could easily fanwank that Daeneris’s immunity to fire might actually make her extra susceptible to whatever it is the undead dragon is spewing,