Garden of Eden: A new symbolic explanation

This came up on a different thread, and it reminded me
of this insane and interesting book I read about human evolution
called, “The Beginning Was the End” by Oscar Kiss Maerth. In this book, Maerth explains the Garden of Eden story as a symbolic (literally, first written only with symbols/hieroglyphics) retelling of how Late Ape evolved into man.

He believes that one species of ape stumbled upon cannibalizing the brains of recently deceased apes. One section of the brain, the pituitary gland, controls sexuality, memory, intelligence, hormones, hair growth, etc. Upon eating this particular gland, the ape(s) felt an incredible sexual rush, so of course the tradition was continued. What they did not know (until thousands of years later) was that eating brain was slowly making the apes smarter (increasing their brain size and capability for memory), as well as causing them to lose their body hair, and for the females to lose their oestrus cycle. (no “heat” period to let the males know when she is ready, has led to the sexually deviant acts found only in the human species)

Anyway, he sees the Creation story as thus: The tree of knowledge is the brain. The apple is the pituitary gland. The snake is sexuality (the snake has been considered a symbol of sexuality all over the world for thousands of years). The “realization of nakedness” is the loss of body hair, and the “birth pains” are the loss of the oestrus cycle.

I left out gaping details of his book, so if anyone has any questions (or more likely indignant scoffs) I’ll try to answer them.
But I urge you to read the book if you are truly interested in bizaare theories that are probably true at parts. (He likens himself to Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin- criticized in their own time but then proven to be true).

hope you enjoyed
colin

Very amusing.
But what do you mean by ‘women don’t have a ‘heat’ period’?
They do have one. Just not so bad as , for instance, cats.

Latro:

I don’t think this is that case. Human females don’t go into estrus as such–depending on viewpoint they’re either always in heat or always not.

Colinito (little Colin?), welcome to the SDMB. I’ll scoff a little, since the premise of the book strikes me as thoroughly ludicrous and on a par with von Daniken. But maybe you can answer two question for me to begin with. Does Maerth address the issue of how this brain-as-Tree of Life idea came to be recorded as a creation myth[sup][/sup]? And does he address any other creation myths besides the Judeo-Christian Genesis story?
[sup]
[/sup]I intend no offense to Christians for the use of the term.

Erm, I thought the theory of evolution was still a theory… or did someone prove Darwin right? (Maybe I’m just missing something…)

A theory in science is a different animal from a theory in common usage. For example, gravity is “only” a theory, but we have a damn good idea it exists and how it behaves.

I’m happy to discuss it further, Deadangel, but this is probably not the thread for it. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll give you some links.

Very clever indeed! Very clever and entertaining. I love the skillful blending of plausibility with lunacy. This is definitely a candidate for the Hall of Crackpot Theories

This reminds me of a book I read about early man starting to return to the sea, in the same way whales have. They spent so much time in the water that they lost most of the hair on the body. Since this was a defensive move, the women spent more time in the water and therefore lost more of their hair than the men did. It was pretty far out, but not as yucky as eating brains.

I think you have to watch out for someone that claims to be a new Copernicus, Galileo, or Darwin.

Sounds like the Aquatic Ape idea. Now there a strange one.

Perhaps I’m missing something here, but isn’t this essentially Lamarckianism? If eating brains makes that particular ape smarter, how does it pass on this increased intelligence to its offspring?

Is this true? - does eating the pituitary gland produce a sexual rush?

**Is there any scientific basis to this claim; progressive genetic change through diet?

Carl Sagan, in Broca’s Brain (which my more than a little wandering mind continually tries to turn into Brokaw’s Brain…perhaps a Doonesburyesque search for higher consciousness in the cranium of a television news anchor) posits that the Garden of Eden and near-death experiences both have their roots in the birth trauma. I don’t have the book to hand at the moment, so I can’t give details, but it seems at least as, if not more, plausible as the brain-cannibal hypothesis.

jayjay

The 80’s musical group seriously embraced the theory put forth in the OP.

   Their bizzare behavior and bleak outlook were due to the conclusion that we had reached our pinnacle as a species. We had only gotten this far by killing others and eating their brains-and it was downhill from here. Devo was actually short for de-evolution.
No, I am NOT kidding. If you can get hold of liner notes, you'll see the proof.

"They say that we, all lost our tails
Evolving up, from little snails.
I say it’s all, just wind in sails.
Are we not men?
We are Devo.
Are we not men?
Dee-Eee-Veee-Oh "

And I ‘heard’ this in the Wierd Al Yankovich polka version. Scary…

jayjay

As an Al fan, let me assure you the lyrics from such classics as “Polka Party” and “Polka Your Eyes Out” are those of the original songs. They have simply been set to new music.

Weird Al parodied none of Devo’s songs but did parody their style with “Dare To Be Stupid”

    Mark Mothersbaugh commented on the song for VH1's Weird Al: Behind The Music
   "He made that song something beautiful, and I hate him for it."  No further explanation is offered.

andros:
I simply did not understand what he was saying. When you related it to gravity, it all became clear to me :smiley:

I meant that I was “hearing” in my head the snippet from the polka medley in which he used those lyrics while I was reading them instead of the “hearing” the original.

And then sliding along into the next snippet, “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, as my wayward brain grabs desperately at the Yankovich oeuvre to fuel its downward spiral…

jayjay

WOW…Just when you think you have heard it all!!!
I would love to look at the evidence for the ape brain eater theory

wow,
extremely receptive audience considering the topic. refreshing.

I’ll try to answer the questions (for him) as best I can.

Andros, you asked a couple questions

  1. How did the tree of life come to be recorded as a creation myth.

He doesn’t address this, but I think he’d follow the logic of the children’s game “Telephone.” As “history” was simply oral and then remedially symbolic for thousands of years, the truth became distorted but still contained somewhat obvious fragments of the truth.

  1. Does he address other creation myths besides the Judeo-Christian one?

Sort of. He is very interested in the primitive. Thus, he draws extensively from two of the oldest of the major religions today- Judaism and Hinduism. Actually, he posits that the Tower of Babel was supposed to be a huge Shiva lingham (phallic statue). Unfortunately, as brain size grew disproportionately larger than the skull, increases in skull pressure caused seizures, and humans lost their telepathic ability. Language began after that.
At any rate, his retelling of the Creation myth and his other revisions of Old Testament stories were never cited as proof that his theory was true. It was more of a sidenote. He has plenty of those, including the identity of the Yeti and a very strange God/UFO connection.

Okay now the king of spain asked something to the effect of
“isn’t this just modified Lemarckinanism?”

Now, this is where I find Maerth’s philosophy to falter a bit. I think he would argue that eating brain was a drug; much like our generation’s ingestion of ecstacy- done for the euphoric feeling, but with consequences to our brains. Imagine a crack baby with a defect smoking crack, and his defected baby smoking crack…And add to this the fact that eating brains meant sex later…for sure. Rape, sex, whatever. The sexual rush guaranteed it. The problem I have with this theory is that the males were the primary ingesters of brain, not females… making for a huge contradiction.

Mangetout asked something like
“does the pituitary gland cause a sexual rush.”

This is a resounding yes. It is proven. In fact, gorilla brain is a delicacy because of the sexual rush. Maerth actually tried gorilla brain shortly after this theory came to him, and recorded his feelings afterward. He also added that the sexual rush increases with the increase in intelligence.

I’d like to add a couple more things, just to make it interesting.

*There are an increasing number of scientists who have (unknowingly) agreed with Maerth that the brain size and capacity for memory increased dramatically (exponentially faster than the speed of evolution for all other things, including ourselves before and after this period) between 1 million years ago and 50,000 years ago (when Maerth said the seizures came, and then the flood and guilt, etc.). These scientists do not have an explanation for this, but most likely would also find Maerth’s theory dubious.

*This book was published in the US by a publishing company that worked very closely with the CIA. Maerth himself speculates that the CIA and similar agencies will probably experiment with fruit flies, or some sort of short-lived, high copulating insect.

*Maerth begins the book beautifully. Here is a hasty, almost criminal synopis of the first pages, just because I think understanding his mindset is intregal in understanding the motives behind his theories.

We cannot remember our birth. Similarly, we cannot remember how our existence began. At a certain point, we began to wonder how it all started. So we made up stories. We naturally set ourselves on top of an invisible pyramid. We sere the best species on the only world in the universe, which was flat and we were in the center of, and which the sun revolved around. Then an astronomer discovers that there are other planets, and these planets have moons. We have to take a step down the pyramid. Then a seafarer in the 15th century discovers that the world isn’t flat, it is spherical, and we were merely on top of one small section on one arc- not in the center. Then another astronomer discovers that we actually revolve around the sun. We take one step down after another. And every step is grudgingly taken. Everyone throughout history who spoke out against the accepted norm (which placed us at the top) was deemed a heretic: Socrates, Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin… thousands others. He saw his theory as the final step down, realizing that we are actually the worst species on the world, in danger of destroying it all. We are psychotic sex-obsessed apes, and we are a virus to all living things living in the natural order.

By the way, the Devo thing is true, they say something to the effect of “we don’t necessarily believe the things in the book, but they the book is important because it reminds us that we really don’t have any idea what happened. What we think really happened probably didn’t.”

sorry, this is way too long,
and I used way too many off the cuff paraphrases
but I hope I was somewhat informative

oh, and my stand on the issue…I think his facts/methodologies are often times dubious, but he is probably closer than our conventional modern thought on the subject. It probably is a crackpot theory, but considering how disgusting human civilization has always been, we most likely didn’t come into existence in a pretty manner.

colin

Um, no, actually this is a resounding “no”, and it is NOT proven.

Got cites for any of the following statements?
[ul]
[li]Consuming a pituitary gland causes a sexual rush.[/li][li]Gorilla brain is a delicacy.[/li][li]Consuming a gorilla brain causes a sexual rush.[/li][/ul]

I’m smelling an Urban Legend here. Three of them, actually.

And, how would Maerth know that the supposed sexual rush increases with intelligence? He’s testing it on himself? So he’s assuming that every time he eats a gorilla’s brain, he gets more intelligent, and every time he eats another gorilla brain, he gets a bigger sexual rush, and therefore that means that he’s getting more intelligent? I’m detecting a slight circularity here.

How would he know that he was getting more intelligent without having someone test him? And how would he possibly be able to test his theory, that consuming gorilla brains increases both your intelligence and your libido? Gorillas are endangered species–where’s he gonna get that many gorilla brains?