Anti-semites.
Jewish people celebrating LGBT Pride in Chicago were told not to display Star of David flags because other people found them ‘offensive.’
The Jewish Star of David flag was banned from the city’s annual Dyke March celebrations, and several people carrying the flag were removed form the march because their presence “made people feel unsafe,” LGBT paper Windy City Times reported.
The flag in question was a rainbow flag with a Star of David superimposed, which is the flag used by a particular group that was apparently unwelcome. Interestingly though, simple American flags were similarly unwelcome, though apparently weren’t an issue.
Here’s an excerpt that includes a statement from the event organizers followed by a statement from the group that was expelled:
You know who would have loved this.
No problem with that at all. The march is about LGBT+ stuff. You shouldn’t be shoehorning other causes into it. It’s not appropriate to make it all about you. A pride parade is about “pride,” celebrating the LGBT community.
Imagine you had a Christmas parade. And there was this group of vegans who wanted to talk about how eating turkey was murder. Would you freak out if they weren’t allowed to march in the parade, just because Christmas is about togetherness?
These guys sealed the deal for me when they tried to misuse the ideals of the parade against them. It’s just more of pretending that tolerance means letting anyone do whatever they want. That’s not what it means. Nothing about coming together means letting some group use your parade as a protesting site.
I tire so much of the Right trying to attack the Left for hypocrisy. Defend your own beliefs, and show why people should prefer them to the beliefs of the Left. All you are doing is making the Left ideals look good, even if they don’t always measure up to them.
If the choice is between wrong ideas and good ideas that no one lives up to, the good ideas still win. Hell, that’s what Christianity is, too. None of us live up to the Christian ideal. All have fallen short of the glory of God.
There’s a reason I say that Christianity is inherently liberal.
Funny then that
I guess being “pro-Palestinian and anti-Zionist” part of “+ stuff” …
OTOH the Jewish marchers were not making any political statements at all.
No, there is no defending this.
You totally missed the point. This was not an unrelated group, it was a Jewish LGBT group who were there to march as part of the larger community. Do you find it unlikely that other groups were marching as well?
Do you object as strongly to the gentleman pictured here?
Or the people here?
Your argument would be more convincing if gay pride parades didn’t tend to include marchers supporting a vast array of generally left wingcauses.
You are the worst.
BTW I would not consider a few organizers of a small march that is a small part of a larger Gay Pride event to at all representative of “The Left” …
These particular individuals are anti-Semitic shitbags. They happen to be Leftist dykes but that is immaterial to the hate and intolerance they have exhibited.
IF this was women in hijabs carrying a flag with a star and crescent, even with a poster that said Palestinian Dykes for Gay Rights, and they were kicked out because Muslims “triggered” some other marchers into feeling “unsafe” the organizers would also be rightfully brought to task.
They have “a goal to bridge together communities across race, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, age, size, gender identity, gender expression, sexuality, culture, immigrant status, spirituality, and ability.” Unless your spiritual expression is Jewish. Then you outta here.
Unfortunately, these LGBT Jews had not learned their rightful place in the official hierarchy of oppression. “LGBT oppressed” only counts +2 points; “collectively responsible Jewish oppressor of Palestinians” counts -6 points. And if you disagree with that, you are making
and must fuck off from our parade.
It saddens me how true this feels.
The irony is palpable.
+1. There really is nothing to defend in the actions of this group here that I can see.
Two things you missed:
This was not the main Gay Pride parade that happened today. This was a smaller parade that occurred yesterday, 6.24.17 organized by the Chicago Dyke Collective. On their Facebook page they say this march is
Apparently they feel people who are LGBTQ+ but happen to be Jews should either keep their mouths shut about being Jewish OR be oppressed and silenced and have their identities and histories dishonored.
Secondly, the people tossed from the parade had a rainbow flag with the Star of David on it. The Collective makes the claim that this symbol represents Zionism and the oppression of Palestinians. This ignores the long history of this emblem being used by Jewish people to honor their heritage in much the same way the cross is used by Christians. The Collective appears to have no issue with rainbow flags with a cross or Ichthys (fish) symbol on it, just with people displaying rainbow flags with a Star of David.
This behavior is anti-Semitic and offensive to me and I happen to be a left leaning 50something gay man who was raised Christian. Gay Pride is about celebration and should be a day of inclusion. These people decided what the intentions of the Jewish LGBTQ+ were and created this mess by making assumptions about what they believed.
Left wing thought police are just as vile and odious as right wing thought police.
I agree. I feel the same way about Oxfam when they do this.
The issue should be “Do you support the cause that we’re here for?” which in this case is gay rights. As long as people support that cause, there shouldn’t be a litmus test over support for other causes.
Well, no, but vegans are a pain in the ass.
The organization that banned displaying the Star of David was wrong and shouldn’t be defended. BigT, you’re wrong here.
No insults in this forum, please. Feel free to use the Pit.
As a Jew and a mother of two kids who are part of the LGBTQ community, this is outrageous and utterly unacceptable.
It’s also not a surprise for any liberal Jew. Reimann nailed it. Not just for this event.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
I was listening to NPR the other day and they were interviewing a gay person who had written a book about growing up gay. Prior, they issued a “trigger warning” that some of the language describing events in the book that had happened to the author might be disturbing to some listeners. I was assuming there was a rape scene or something, but the warning was because they quoted someone who had called the author a “faggot” and that kids had spat on him at school. Now, that is not to minimize such actions, nor to equate them with the stuff in the OP, but a trigger warning? Really?? I’m trying to imagine how they would have introduced an interview with Eli Wiesel to talk about Night.
