Please share how many years of American schooling you’ve had. I’m not buying the illiterate part, to be honest. One minute you understand and can properly use and spell complex words and concepts, and the next you don’t know ‘is’ creates a question? Zero consistency. It’s too transparent to be fun any more.
It’s been a good laugh but I find this schtick of yours grows pretty boring, pretty fast.
And? I have a learning disability with me too.
I already did comment on it. But I’ll expand on it.
Yes, it can cause problems to a country’s economy if people are spending less money, generating less wealth, and producing fewer future taxpayers. But individual people aren’t obligated to shape their lives around what is best for their country’s GDP. They have the right to choose their own lives. And if they want to spend their time and their money on their hobbies and their interests instead of being breeders they have every right to do so. (The difference between “herbivore men” in Japan and MGTOWs is that herbivore men spend all their time talking about movies, books, TV, manga, games, and other hobbies that interest them instead of getting into relationships, while MGTOWs spend all their time talking about how much they don’t need women.)
So there is nothing wrong with being a “herbivore man.” Nothing. If you feel the need to look down your nose at them, that only shows what a petty, small-minded person you are. It is none of your fucking business how other people choose to live their lives and none of your fucking business to try to tell them how they are doing it wrong.
What the fuck, if y’all don’t mind me asking, is a “masculine” group or culture?
Is it in any shape way fashion or form different from a male group or culture? Is “masculine”, in other words, a synonym for “male”, meaning folks with XY chromosomes and generally in possession of penis and testicles as standard issue bodyparts?
Does the category “sissies” count as a masculine group? We are a category of male people of the XY genotype and the associated morphology.
I believe that it is meant as an indication of the rippin’est, roarin’est, fightin’est men. So to put it on a scale you have
men
masculine <--------------------> pussified
and I would conjecture
women
feminine <--------------------> dickified
where in both cases, the further to the left on the scale the better, and the further to the right the more it indicates a horrible decay in the structure of society.
I would tend to agree with you, Darren Garrison, except that, as you well know, I spent a year of blogging in which I kept finding myself repeatedly informed that I should simply redefine “masculine” in such a way as to include folks like me, and that any insistence on my part that I wasn’t a part of that masculinity being-a-man thing meant that I harbored ridiculously rigid stereotyped notions of what it means to be a man.
So since the word seemed to be used in this thread in more or less the same way I was using it in my own threads, I thought I’d ask.
Yeah, now that you bring it up, I had long since noticed that he seemed to be using horribly rigid stereotypes just like you.
How (if at all) would you characterize the differences in our (mine and the OP’s) perspectives?
He thinks that it is a platonic ideal that men should strive for, you think it is a default state that you deviate from.
I am not implying you should overly masculine, nor should you strip your masculine identity completely off. If so how are you going to be confident? How are you gonna stand up for yourself? How are you gonna be a leader to your community?
You need a healthy balance of both masculine[confidence, leading, assertiveness] and feminine traits[caring, compassion, tolerance]
Never ever have I gone for the feminist label, not even once.
And yes I struggle with my masculinity, but unlike most guys who barely notice… I put a good effort to get overly masculine. Cuss, throw punches into the air and walls, try to challenge people into something[a race for instance], listen to the most hardcore of metal and hip hop songs[An increasing rarity] and yeah. I know I am aware of my masculinity oh and just try to embrace my heritage more.
I think you need to get out more.
Man is defined as a human being and a woman as a female - whenever she behaves as a human being she is said to imitate the male.
– Simone du Beauvoir
Whereas if I were to characterize the two of us (again being the OP and myself here), I’d say he thinks that is a platonic ideal that men should strive for, I think it is a widely shared platonic state that the vast majority of people think men should resemble more than women do, and from which I deviate. I don’t think it’s a default state.
Well here is a quick question then and someone please help me the best they can without adding in any biases or suspicious vibes in
How can I stop needing to act my masculine urges so badly and instead save my masculine urges for more appropiate times? Example: Throwing my fists in the air or listening to obnoxious/hardcore music.
And btw quick thing to add, again I don’t necessarily think white men as effeminate, neither overly masculine. But a lot of social groups [Bronies, nerds, gamers, etc] are what I feel give off the image of unworthy white men. But I accept that stereotypes are not always the case and I accept even through history there is times to feel your masculinity is under attack.
Great example: The industrial revolution.
I know is a stupid theory to see that the darker your skin, the more naturally masculine you are made out to be. Fuck some people see me very threatening and some people even see as maybe dark vanilla. But it is the way that is promoted a lot through the cultural engineering and the internet as well. But the fact that ideas of masculinity vary so much in the first place do make me wonder which is the bigger player of role into it: Culture, nature or nurturing?
So yeah, I think is time I move on from sociology, physcology and political talk.
I also felt more masculine as a kid, probably because I had a more assertive attitude back then. Maybe not assertive, definitely more enthusiastic about my things. And maybe not more masculine either, I just knew what to accept myself more as a kid. The fact that I haven’t seen my father in almost 10 years can explain a lot.
No, it can’t. I was raised by a single mother and my grandmother, and I never went through any of this “am I enough of a slack-jawed, buckle-dragging asshole existentialist crisis” phase. I was always a nerd (one of those unworthy white people you mention (also, I don’t play games, but I like My Little Pony and Star vs the Forces of Evil and Peg Plus Friggin’ Cat) Stop letting other people define who you are. Stop caring what other people like. And if you can’t do that, at least learn to stop spewing all that bile out, alienating everyone around you, or you are going to spend the rest of your life spewing angry bile at Return of Kings with all of the other people too frothing with resentment for anyone to stand them in real life.
Here’s an visual answer to your question. An art project calledExactitudes. Click an image to enlarge it. Each category has their own collection of twelve specimens.
Some of the categories have NSFW specimens in them.
Great example of what? A complete non-sequitur?
You are not mature enough to evaluate rationally the emotions and ideas your struggling to express and understand. Stay in school. Exercise. See if you can find a part time job or volunteer opportunities. Read for pleasure - it will help you develop your communications skills. Don’t obsess about “masculinity” or “identity politics” or “intersectionality” or what ever other popular social hot button bullshit “issue” you hear about on the internet. Most of what you hear is wrong and most people, including you, don’t understand the terms or context in which to correctly apply them.
Get some therapy and take it seriously. You’re dealing with all kinds of personal issues, not the least of which are anger and lack of self-esteem. If you have some kind of learning or developmental disability, that too can be a contributing factor. A qualified professional can help you with that but it will take time so commit to that process.
Here’s a great example: three field crop rotation.