Clearly I meant…
unvote
vote SilverJan
And another “petulant townie” defense! :rolleyes:
If you’re town, you presumably want town to win, right?
Right now, more than ever, you need to lay down your suspicions. You’re going to die anyway, so just name off in order everybody you’re suspicious of. It’ll be phenomenally helpful to town.
Seriously, you saw how little gnarlycharlie helped us after his death, right? Learn from him. Petulantly voting for yourself does nobody any good.
If you’re town, I’ll color-code you blue on my chart and we can cross-reference all of your suspicions. We’ll be one step closer to catching scum.
As it is, you’re spiking your teammates unnecessarily.
I have to say that I am not convinced by the votes for Silver Jan. My feeling is that Silver Jan is relatively new, and in trying to learn what works and what doesn’t, has triggered alarms and pulled votes. I’ve seen this happen too often for it to be anything but a new-player tell.
Silver Jan, don’t give up on us. They’ll get used to you eventually.
I definitely don’t agree with Stanisalus’s allegation of ALE gloating made in [post=13936815]1294[/post]. I find it fairly suspicious, but suspect that I have insufficient time to review Stanislaus’s posts Today. So I’ll vote for him anyways, because I’ve seen Mafiates jump on that sort of thing before.
Stanislaus
I apologise for not doing the promised review. A job application got in the way.
I don’t think possibly wasting a lynch on pedescribe is a good idea unless it can’t be avoided. I’m hoping he comes back or Red makes a ruling.
I’ve been going back through Silver Jan’s posts, and found them incredibly difficult to parse. That might be just posting style, but she waffles all over the place and seems to vote based more on what people think of her at any given moment than honest suspicion.
Also, the self-vote thing again:
[bolding mine]
She defends the self-vote, but doesn’t like it, and then says she should have kept the vote on gnarley fot it. Now she’s doing the same thing.
With the waffling and aw-shucks style it’s just a little too much.
[strike]Vote Silver Jan[/strike] (hammer vote?)
-On review a quick vote count shows we might be at the hammer vote. I’ll hold off in case anyone else wants to chime in at the last minute, unless someone wants to point out that we aren’t at hammer. I also can’t figure out how to do strike-through on this board, but hopefully my meaning is clear.
I don’t believe we’re at hammer. My memory tells me that the hammer is 10 votes, and Silver Jan has 8. I think.
Also, I believe we have less than an hour to Dusk, so a hammer probably won’t matter too much.
Strikethrough is the del tag.
[noparse][del]I don’t want to post this after all[/del][/noparse] => [del]I don’t want to post this after all[/del].
Thanks for the tip on the del code – I’ll have to remember that.
You are correct, it’s at 8. I counted Zeriel twice with his formatting mixup.
fluiddruid might still show up with a vote, and maybe even pedescribe (thought I doubt it), so I didn’t want to end the voting early.
Vote Silver Jan
The travelers were fed up, they’d been lynching and lynching but getting nowhere closer to their goal. Till one amongst them, said “Hey I know, lets check each other’s drivers licenses! See Mine? It says Bernardo de la Paz.” To which the retort was: “What the hell is a drivers license, and How can you be possibly named La Paz, you’re obviously British!” To which he replied: “It’s okay, lynch me if you want, I can’t be killed, since I locked my soul in this robin’s egg.” Which promptly slipped out of his hand and shattered on a rock jutting out of the hot sand. Oops.
Silver Jan AKA Marquis De Carabas, A member of the Associated League of Evil is dead.
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Silver Jan(9): Normal Phase[1108], Winston Smith[1188], [del]Weedy[del][1212-1213][/del][/del], Astral Rejection[1224], Tom Scud[1282], Stanislaus[1294], Mahaloth[1295], Zeriel[1299], Silver Jan[1300], nesta[1307]
pedescribe(1): Inner Stickler[1094], [del]Silver Jan[del][1128-1300][/del][/del], [del]Mahaloth[del][1281-1295][/del][/del]
Winston Smith(1): SisterCoyote[1167]
MHaye(1): Weedy[1246]
Weedy(1): Stanislaus[1277]
Stanislaus(1): MHaye[1304]
Inner Stickler(0): [del]SisterCoyote[del][1095-1120][/del][/del], [del]Stanislaus[del][1131-1140][/del][/del]
Mahaloth(0): [del]Winston Smith[del][1159-1173][/del][/del]
Did Not Vote: pedescribe, fluiddruid
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Coin toss: Heads, Tails, Tails, Heads, Tails.
Night will end on Wednesday at 7p ET.
Sweet.
According to Wikipedia:
(that’s my guess for the source; Gaiman’s Neverwhere.)
Whew.
Hot damn, finally.
Updated color-coded list of votes coming when I get home from class. Also, awesome!
That’ll do.
Also, thank you Astral. I was starting to feel like I was talking to a brick wall.
Slight inaccuracy in the mod’s vote count - Stanislaus moved his vote from Weedy to Jan at 1294, but the mod forgot to remove his Weedy vote.
Updating Astral’s vote list:
Day 1
Tom Scud vf Astral Rejection 136
Stanislaus vf Astral Rejection 139
TexCat vf Astral Rejection 141
Mahaloth vf Astral Rejection 154
Zeriel vf Astral Rejection 160
Normal Phase vf Astral Rejection 207
[del]Stanislaus unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 211
[del]Tom Scud unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 236
[del]Normal Phase unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 237
Special Ed vf Astral Rejection 245
Astral Rejection vf Special Ed 246
Normal Phase vf Sister Coyote 317
[del]Normal Phase unvote Sister Coyote[/del], vf gnarlycharlie 318
gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection 324
Silver Jan vf Astral Rejection 327
Winston Smith vf Pleonast 328
Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 356
Hirka T’Bawa vf Mahaloth 398
Pedescribe vf Sister Coyote 399
Weedy vf Sister Coyote 407
[del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote Mahaloth[/del], vf Sister Coyote 414
[del]Silver Jan unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 428
[del]Astral Rejection unvote Special Ed[/del], vf Sister Coyote 451
Sister Coyote vf Astral Rejection 466
Pleonast vf Sister Coyote 487
fubbleskag vf Astral Rejection 490
Inner Stickler vf Astral Rejection 492
[del]Special Ed unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 507
nesta vf fubbleskag 523
Pleonast vf fubbleskag 530
Hirka T’Bawa vf Pleonast (four times!) 536
Normal Phase vf Pleonast 540
[del]Pedescribe unvote Sister Coyote[/del] 545
Pedescribe vf Pleonast 546
Stanislaus vf Zeriel 560
Astral Rejection vf gnarlycharlie 569
Silver Jan vf gnarlycharlie 581
Tom Scud vf fubbleskag 583
Special Ed vf fubbleskag 603
[del]Silver Jan blues an unvote of gnarlycharlie[/del] (Red counts it anyway) 615
Silver Jan vf fubbleskag 624
Weedy vf fubbleskag 626
MHaye vf Zeriel 627
[del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote Pleonast[/del], vf fubbleskag 635
[del]fubbleskag unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 636
fubbleskag vf Pleonast 641
[del]TexCat unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf fubbleskag 645
[del]Hirka T’Bawa unvote fubbleskag[/del], vf Pleonast 649
[del]Zeriel unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf Hirka T’Bawa 653
No votes by Day end: everybody voted!
Day 2
Mahaloth vf gnarlycharlie 718
gnarlycharlie vf Astral Rejection 719
Hirka T’Bawa vf gnarlycharlie 723
Astral Rejection vf gnarlycharlie 725
Normal Phase vf gnarlycharlie 735
[del]gnarlycharlie unvote Astral Rejection[/del], vf gnarlycharlie 740
Stanislaus vf TexCat 751
Pleonast vf gnarlycharlie 760
Pedescribe vf Pleonast 775
Winston Smith vf Pleonast 790
Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 791
Sister Coyote vf Inner Stickler 792
Weedy vf Hirka T’Bawa 833
Silver Jan vf Inner Stickler 837
Tom Scud vf Hirka T’Bawa 839
Zeriel vf Hirka T’Bawa 841
TexCat vf Astral Rejection 844
Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 849
[del]Normal Phase unvote gnarlycharlie[/del], vf Silver Jan 850
[del]Tom Scud unvote Hirka T’Bawa[/del] 860
Tom Scud vf gnarlycharlie 863
Inner Stickler vf gnarlycharlie 869
nesta vf gnarlycharlie 873
MHaye vf Pleonast 877
No votes by Day end: everybody voted!
Day 3 - I note here that Normal Phase has done exactly what I’m doing in post 910. Well, darn. Onward!
Mahaloth vf Astral Rejection 900
Normal Phase vf Silver Jan 905
Fluiddruid vf Pleonast 921
Tom Scud vf Astral Rejection 928
[del]Tom Scud unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 931
[del]Mahaloth unvote Astral Rejection[/del] 965
Silver Jan vf Inner Stickler 978
Weedy vf Inner Stickler 984
Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 1000
Zeriel vf Hirka T’Bawa 1001
TexCat vf Winston Smith 1002
Astral Rejection vf TexCat 1005
Normal Phase vf TexCat 1009
Tom Scud vf Zeriel 1019
Sister Coyote vf TexCat 1021
Hirka T’Bawa vf Zeriel 1022
Winston Smith vf TexCat 1029
Mahaloth vf Hirka T’Bawa 1031
[del]Fluiddruid unvote Pleonast[/del], vf TexCat 1035
Inner Stickler vf Texcat 1039
[del]TexCat unvote Winston Smith[/del], vf Zeriel 1041
MHaye vf Inner Stickler 1064
[del]TexCat unvote Zeriel[/del], vf Sister Coyote 1068
nesta vf TexCat 1069
No votes by Day end: pedescribe, Pleonast
Day 4
Inner Stickler vf pedescribe 1094
SisterCoyote vf Inner Stickler 1095
Normal Phase vf Silver Jan 1108
[del]SisterCoyote unvote Inner Stickler[/del] 1120
Zeriel vf pedescribe 1124
Silver Jan vf pedescribe 1128
Stanislaus vf Inner Stickler 1131
[del]Stanislaus unvote Inner Stickler[/del] 1139
Winston Smith vf Mahaloth 1159
Sister Coyote vf Winston Smith 1167
[del]Winston Smith unvote Mahaloth[/del] 1173
Winston Smith vf Silver Jan 1188
Weedy vf Silver Jan 1212
[del]Weedy unvote Silver Jan[/del] 1213
Astral Rejection vf Silver Jan 1224
Weedy vf MHaye 1246
Stanislaus vf Weedy 1277
Mahaloth vf pedescribe 1281
Tom Scud vf Silver Jan 1282
- Tom Scud announces he will shift vote to pedescribe to avoid tie if needed
[del]Stanislaus unvote Weedy[/del] 1294
Stanislaus vf Silver Jan 1294
[del]Mahaloth unvote pedescribe[/del] 1295
Mahaloth vf Silver Jan 1295
[del]Zeriel unvote pedescribe[/del] 1299
Zeriel vf Silver Jan 1299
[del]Silver Jan unvote pedescribe[/del] 1300
Silver Jan vf Silver Jan 1300
MHaye vf Stanislaus 1304
nesta vf Silver Jan
No votes by Day end: pedescribe, fluiddruid
Key:
Blue = known town
Green = suspected, claimed, investigated town (explained below)
Purple = third party
Red = known scum
Deleted lines show unvotes.
Suspected or Claimed town:
Astral = Cop
Inner = Doc
Fluid = bomb detector
Mahaloth = inventor
Tom Scud = coroner
Not counted = vanilla claims.
Initial thought there is that Stanislaus’s vote at 1294 looks very Townie (or at least non-Scum); I’d expect a scum to hold back in hopes that they could stick me with the blame for a “no ties!” vote shift.
Thanks for doing that for me, Tom!
Some notes:
nesta was again the very last person to vote, and once again voted for the town bandwagon. In this particular case, the result killed town, but it was very much a “me-too!” vote, coming on the heels of 8 consecutive Silver Jan votes.
I want to address two comments from Stanislaus:
I never asked you to apologize, I was just pointing it out. Every fact, every connection we can draw, can possibly help town. I help no one by staying silent. A healthy sense of paranoia is useful in this game.
To directly respond to your comments, voting for non-lynch leaders is a viable scum strategy. The people you vote for often aren’t even close to being lynched. Without their flip, we don’t conclusively know their alignment, and thus we can’t pin anything on you. You look like a helpful townie, refusing to follow the bandwagon mentality and attempting to ferret out scum. Scum do this. Town does this. It’s worth pointing out, and people can draw their own conclusions about you from it.
Also, voting for Zeriel doesn’t prove anything about you. If you’re scum, you know Zeriel isn’t. If you’re town, you don’t know what Zeriel is, especially as your vote came on Day 1. So, once again, it’s not necessarily suspicious, but it’s worth pointing out. I don’t necessarily think Normal Phase is scum, but I still pointed out where she had voted with others in a potentially suspicious way.
It’s odd to me that you think these actions are the paragon of townie behavior.
I wouldn’t even call the idea of voting on one-offs that suspicious–it’s how you justify it and how you react to getting called on it.