George Galloway vs. the US Senate

[SkipMagic]

Vell… while serious threads are welcome in MPSIMS, I think this is better fodder for GD. I’ll kick it over thar.

[tagos]

@SkipMagic

Vell… while serious threads are welcome in MPSIMS, I think this is better fodder for GD. I’ll kick it over thar.

This was kicked there from the Pit by Giraffe wasn’t it?

[Rayne_Man]

@Rayne Man

It would be interesting if we could put George Galloway into a time machine , transport him back 50 years and see him and Senator MacArthur battle it out in the anti-Communist witch hunts. I bet G.G. would come out tops in that encounter as well !

Wake up at the back there ! Nobody spotted my mistake. Of course I meant Senator McCarthy. :smack:

[tagos]

@NurseCarmen

But what about those Food for Oil documents?
dated before the food for oil program was put into effect.

It’s embarrasing how sloppy their case was.

Unbelievable in the :smack: way. Can you provide a cite so i can scoff along?

[Scott_Plaid]

@Giraffe

I’m not seeing much of a Pitting here. Call me a starry-eyed optimist, but I think this thread has the potential to stay civil. (If not, well, I guess we’ll see if back here again.)

Off to MPSIMS.

Damnit, I want to fucking swear at Sentor WhatshisName! What’s next, Questions about Staff reports?

@SkipMagic

Vell… while serious threads are welcome in MPSIMS, I think this is better fodder for GD. I’ll kick it over thar.

Arrrrrrghhhhhhhhh! :mad:

[NurseCarmen]

@tagos

Unbelievable in the :smack: way. Can you provide a cite so i can scoff along?

@George Galloway

"Now, one of the most serious of the mistakes you have made in this set of documents is, to be frank, such a schoolboy howler as to make a fool of the efforts that you have made. You assert on page 19, not once but twice, that the documents that you are referring to cover a different period in time from the documents covered by The Daily Telegraph which were a subject of a libel action won by me in the High Court in England late last year.

"You state that The Daily Telegraph article cited documents from 1992 and 1993 whilst you are dealing with documents dating from 2001. Senator, The Daily Telegraph’s documents date identically to the documents that you were dealing with in your report here. None of The Daily Telegraph’s documents dealt with a period of 1992, 1993. I had never set foot in Iraq until late in 1993 - never in my life. There could possibly be no documents relating to Oil-for-Food matters in 1992, 1993, for the Oil-for-Food scheme did not exist at that time.

"And yet you’ve allocated a full section of this document to claiming that your documents are from a different era to the Daily Telegraph documents when the opposite is true. Your documents and the Daily Telegraph documents deal with exactly the same period.

"But perhaps you were confusing the Daily Telegraph action with the Christian Science Monitor. The Christian Science Monitor did indeed publish on its front pages a set of allegations against me very similar to the ones that your committee have made. They did indeed rely on documents which started in 1992, 1993. These documents were unmasked by the Christian Science Monitor themselves as forgeries.

I thought it was tacky when George jumped up on the table, wiggled his ass at Norm Colman, and shouted "Jooov B33n OWNED!!! Even if Norm had, in fact, b33n owned.

[yojimbo]

@tagos

Unbelievable in the :smack: way. Can you provide a cite so i can scoff along?

I posted this in the wrong thread so I’ll do it here as well.

"Now, one of the most serious of the mistakes you have made in this set of documents is, to be frank, such a schoolboy howler as to make a fool of the efforts that you have made. You assert on page 19, not once but twice, that the documents that you are referring to cover a different period in time from the documents covered by The Daily Telegraph which were a subject of a libel action won by me in the High Court in England late last year.

"You state that The Daily Telegraph article cited documents from 1992 and 1993 whilst you are dealing with documents dating from 2001. Senator, The Daily Telegraph’s documents date identically to the documents that you were dealing with in your report here. None of The Daily Telegraph’s documents dealt with a period of 1992, 1993. I had never set foot in Iraq until late in 1993 - never in my life. There could possibly be no documents relating to Oil-for-Food matters in 1992, 1993, for the Oil-for-Food scheme did not exist at that time.

…snip…

But perhaps you were confusing the Daily Telegraph action with the Christian Science Monitor. The Christian Science Monitor did indeed publish on its front pages a set of allegations against me very similar to the ones that your committee have made. They did indeed rely on documents which started in 1992, 1993. These documents were unmasked by the Christian Science Monitor themselves as forgeries.

The Times & The Sunday Times

[Scott_Plaid]

@NurseCarmen

I thought it was tacky when George jumped up on the table, wiggled his ass at Norm Colman, and shouted "Jooov B33n OWNED!!! Even if Norm had, in fact, b33n owned.

He deserved it. Shall I post a large number of links to OWne6! photo’s now?

[NurseCarmen]

Ooops. I forgot to highlight the specific context.

@GG

There could possibly be no documents relating to Oil-for-Food matters in 1992, 1993, for the Oil-for-Food scheme did not exist at that time.

[tagos]

@yojimbo

I posted this in the wrong thread so I’ll do it here as well.

The Times & The Sunday Times

Cheers. Totally priceless.

Almost up there with the WMD Report cribbed from the Internet. Are these people really so stupid or do they just think we are?

[RedFury]

Video: Galloway slams U.S. justice as he rejects charges

Link at top of the page to the full 47 minute testimony.

Should be mandatory viewing amongst the Democratic Party leadership.

[eleanorigby]

If I had any but the most rudimentary skills at the computer (I can’t even link here yet–I will keep trying), I would send the transcripts to my esteemed Senators (Durbin and Obama) and say–“use this as a how to guide”.

And they aren’t even the wimpiest among the Dems.

I want so badly to wave this in front of the DNC and shout–look! this is how it is done!

bah.

Three cheers for Galloway–and I wish I could hope that this has humbled some of the Senate, but that is folly indeed.

[Merijeek]

@tagos

Cheers. Totally priceless.

Almost up there with the WMD Report cribbed from the Internet. Are these people really so stupid or do they just think we are?

Honestly?

Galloway didn’t manage a whole lot that sounds good in a five second soundbyte, did he?

He entertained those smart enough to pay attention, had a jolly old time himself, and that’s it. Nothing said will make the least bit of difference, sadly.

-Joe

[yojimbo]

True for America maybe. It did however futher damage the image of the US/Admin in the UK and beyond. This was headline news yesterday.

Did it even make most of the big news broadcasts in the US?

[Gaudere]

[Moderator Hat ON]

Moving this poor, dizzy thread back to the Pit (after discussion w/ Giraffe) because:

1. We already have a Galloway thread in GD, and it is more GD-ish
2. It’s too likely to be contentious to be in MPSIMS or IMHO
3. I don’t want to lock it as a dup of the GD thread when it got moved here
4. We’ll probably get a Pit Galloway thread anyway
5. Posters have indicated they wish to make Pitty comments.

[Moderator Hat OFF]

[NurseCarmen]

@yojimbo

Did it even make most of the big news broadcasts in the US?

Yes. And none of the soundclips are from Norm, they’re all George. And then there was the clip on MSNBC, where Coleman tried to trash Galloway, who was followed by George himself, who was able to administer even more than he gave in the testimony.

His showing was so popular, that I don’t doubt more appearances are to follow. I’m certain Larry King has been placing calls, if Larry is Larry.

[jayjay]

@NurseCarmen

His showing was so popular, that I don’t doubt more appearances are to follow. I’m certain Larry King has been placing calls, if Larry is Larry.

Could Galloway be this generation’s Welsh, the one who makes the press actually sit up and take notice that “the emperor has no clothes, and hey! We’re feelin’ a bit of a draft ourselves!”?

[Scott_Plaid]

::Scott’s eyes have a distinctive swirly pattern:: I thNIk sO, BuT could I ask to to explain WHAt you mean by Welsh, i don’t under- :THUMP:

:Scott collapses from dizziness after having the room he is in picked up, put down, stared at, shaken like a snow-dome, and finally put back down again::

[Frank]

@Gaudere

5. Posters have indicated they wish to make Pitty comments.

Pithy. We meant pithy. Or possibly pissy.

[Giraffe]

Well, until I can think of a good reason to send this thread to Cafe Society, I’m guessing it’ll stay here for a while.

George Galloway isn’t in the new Star Wars movie, is he?