So you are finally on the record that slowing down to 10mph is against the law? Because I’ve had at least three people claim no one has said that.
Quote them. They aren’t saying what you think they are.
You have to slow down to 10mph at some point don’t you? Of course SLOWING down to 10mph is not against the law. I never said that. Driving at 10mph in a 35 often is.
More classic Road Rage behavior. You don’t seem to care about that. You certainly don’t try to address it.
Moving the goal posts again? Or are you just building another straw man?
Nor is he saying that now. Slowing down to 10 mph is not inherently illegal. It is illegal when it impedes traffic.
You know this distinction. You know it because it has been pointed out to you numerous times now. You continue to ignore it though, purely as a matter of convenience.
Having worked in retail for many, many years I can tell you that saying to a customer- no matter how politely- “Look, you either need to hurry up or come back later when there aren’t eight people queued up behind you” is far more likely to result in the slow person becoming angry, complaining to head office about poor service, or saying “Well you should have more people on” and subsequently being both slow and agitated than it is to result in “I’m terribly sorry, I didn’t realise, I’ll wrap this up faster/come back later” with them then doing exactly that.
It all depends on the customer, of course- younger customers, especially early in the transaction when it’s become apparent that it’s going to be complicated- can frequently be asked if they wouldn’t mind waiting for one side for a moment so people with “simple” transactions can be put through, freeing everyone up and will oblige. But older people, IME, tend to get cranky and start going on about “Poor Service”.
Yes, the store probably should have more staff on. But it’s not the fault of only person on the register or the eight people in the queue behind Major Slow that they don’t and it’s still not a carte blanche for Major Slow to continue holding everyone up because “they were there first”.
Having been in retail for many many years I would be smart enough not to ever phrase it that way. I’ve done it successfully many many times.
There can be a lot of variables but my standard policy was that the cash register was for ringing up a transaction. If it just so happens that the customer is buying a lot or there are several steps for thier particular transaction then people in line have to wait. They are doing what the register is for.
What I’m talking about are customers who come to the register and want to ask questions about the product , or negotiate prices, or stand there trying to decide which of the things they brought up they are going to buy. I’ll give them a few seconds to decide. I’ll tell one person in line that I’ll be with them shortly, {whic hopefully clues in the person at the register} but eventually I’ll ask them politely “would you mind if I rang up these folks while you decide?” and most of them have NP with that. Sometimes I’d use the more assertive “I need to ring these folks up and then I’ll answer your questions” or get someone else to help them, but we don’t take several minutes answering questions about product or deciding what to buy, standing at the register with people in line. The register is primarily for people who know what they want and are ready to pay.
Competition and slim margins has a lot of companies cutting back on staff and it’s a constant juggling act. Occasionaly we drop the ball but we keep plugging away.
There’s another thread going on about people who are cluless about how their actions affect the people around them. You see a lot of that in retail as I’m sure you know.
You could say that technically speaking , when one car comes up behind me and I’m going 10mph in a 35 , I’m impeding traffic, and I suppose an over zealous cop could write a ticket for that but very few people would think that is reasonable.
If a car has to slow down to 10 for a few seconds while I look for an address it’s being ridiculously rigid to cry “impeding traffic”
I just want you to know that last night when I went to the grocery store I was very conscious of keeping my cart on the left or right side. I really concentrated and those times when I caught myself drifting to the middle I corrected.
I think I was focusing on it too much , because when I turned one corner there was one old lady who had left her cart in the middle while she looked at the canned vegatables. I prepared to say my polite excuse me but what came out was
"Holy Shit Lady , get a fucking clue. Can’t you see you’re blocking the aisle you selfish wrinkled old bitch!!!
I remember a can of creamed corn coming at me and then waking up with the EMTs around me. Ahhh life is full of rich learning experiences.
Don’t be absurd. If a car comes up behind you and you promptly take corrective action – by speeding up or getting out of the way, for example – then no reasonable person would complain. I seriously doubt that anyone here would raise hell over that scenario.
This is entirely different from deliberately driving at 10 mph while motorists are waiting behind you. You know this, so why are you pretending that the two situations are at all comparable?
How can you so steadfastly miss the point and nuance and continue with extremes as if they are relevant? I’m not pretending anything since I never made the comparison you describe. You either sincerely don’t get it, or just feel like arguing for your own entertainment. Either way I’ve lost interest.
No one has said they want to drive 10mph with motorists waiting behind them.
I am firmly on the side of the people who think you should be aware of your surroundings and try to anticipate people. There shouldn’t ever be a reason why your cart is in the middle of the aisle. Stop daydreaming, you can do that at home. Push your cart to the side.
I understand IRL we can’t always do so, but we can certainly try to remember we all live in a shared space. My aunts do 5-10 transactions at an ATM, on a busy day, with cars queueing up behind them. I cringe in shame.
I just went to the restroom in my building and there was a woman standing in the exact MIDDLE of the hallway, on the phone. Sure, I could say excuse me, but why should I have to? It takes no effort and almost no thought to just step to the side and lean against the wall. Literally, her back to me, taking up the entire middle of the hallway, just standing there.
I understand people genuinely being lost, of course - but I am just as irritated with the person who doesn’t signal their turn until they are already making it as I am with the person who turns their turn signal on a 1/4 mile ahead of their turn and slows down to a crawl for that entire distance. And I am particularly peeved at the people who never seem to plan their route and are always taken aback - constantly making difficult left turns against four lanes of traffic, for example.
In no way has anyone (but you) suggested that they do or should fly off the handle like that. This is nothing more than a lame attempt to try to disparage those that would rather not be inconvenienced.
Too bad. You where being pretty reasonable about this whole thing.
Except you. Twice. Oops.
Everybody knows you are curlcoating this thread by snipping comments out of context and posting them as if you have scored some damning point. You haven’t. All of my posts are in the context of slowing down to look for an address, so incessently spinning them as though I advocated impeding traffic for its entertainment value is lame on the face of it. Fail.
Please. I have no dog in this fight but you have consistently moved the goalposts and your method of debating is less than honest.
Did you or did you not say,
“Not if I am moving. There is no law against driving 10 miles an hour in the right lane in a 35mph zone.”
And that is what people have been answering.
Then you decided to change it to “looking for addresses”. And you keep harping on that like you’ve made some wonderful point.
This is dishonest. I have been talking about looking for addresses since my first post in this thread, and have been consistent throughout.
THat was a lame attempt at a joke and not aimed at critisizing any poster.
Sorry you missed it.
This is my ongoing peeve, too. Everyone has been in Safeway and Wal*Mart before; everyone knows that there are ALWAYS people trying to get past your cart, so why do so many people act like it is the first time someone has asked them to move their cart so others can get by? My husband tells me it is because they are mentally incapable of anticipating consequences; I’m not sure I buy that. Surely if every time you park your cart in the middle of the aisle and get asked to move it, you’ll eventually learn to move it to the side when you’re perusing the creamed corn? Won’t that connection be made sooner or later?
As I already pointed out, whether you want to do so or not is irrelevant. You claimed that you have the right to do so, and that is what we are taking issue with. What you actually desire is another matter, and one that’s irrelevant to this discussion.
I’ve been married to my husband for over 33 years. No, he doesn’t make the connection. If I’m with him when we’re shopping, I have to jab an elbow in his ribs. I used to just say “Let’s let this person get past us, honey”, but it’s so much simpler to use an elbow jab.
And he genuinely is sorry that he’s impeded someone. He just can’t manage to remember to NOT block the aisle every time. He’s 52, and I rather doubt that he’s gonna change. If you see him out shopping, just tell him that you need to get past him.
I, on the other hand, am a paragon of virtue in this case. Even if I’m browsing the shelves in a bookstore or library, I’m aware of other browsers, and will offer to move to another section if someone comes up and looks interested in my current section.
I think that all stores that offer shopping carts should have aisles that are at least two and a half carts wide. I also think that all addresses should be readily readable from the street…and that includes addresses of private residences and the addresses on street signs. If I’m looking for 1199 Main Street, it would be helpful to know if I’m on 1200 Main, or 200 Main. If I’m on 200 Main, I can cruise on down several blocks before I slow down and try to find 1199. Also, business names should be clearly readable from the street.
So why do you think he has never learned to anticipate blocking other people in spite of having it happen regularly?