Get your liar ass in here, Sweet Willy!

Oh, poop!
Willie asserted that Bin Laden & Sadam Hussein were Masons and questioned if GW and Bush Sr., let them “get away” because of this.

Then he asserted that a great deal of questionable behavior occurs based on actions alleged to his Dad and a Sheriff.

Then things spun off into recruiting. We’ve moved from the New World Order to pamphlets.

Next?

I guess next it would be establishing that the Masons do in fact exist, followed by a “See?!?”

Ahem.

::cue the them from 2001: A Space Oddysey::

::the audience sits, captivated, as the trumpets build in volume, finally reaching their crescendo::

Welcome to Real Life, Sweet Willy.

I’ll lay it down to you in a really straight, non-Masonic manner. SPOOFE-to-Willy.

You’re acting like an asshole.

“We” - that is, the general Board population (with a few exceptions, of course) - don’t like assholes.

Ergo, your lack of “slack” (heh, that rhymes) is not due to any sort of animosity from Monty. It’s not due to any sort of cabal. It’s not due to little green men from the planet Zirvvosplat controlling every aspect of government. It is due entirely to your behavior. If you want to be cut slack, then change your behavior, i.e.- don’t act like an asshole.

This pronouncement was brought to you by Conspiracy Inc. All rights - and lefts - reserved.

I don’t get it. Since you all are part of The Great Conspiracy of World Domination, why is this guy still on the loose? I thought you knew how to deal with those clever troublemakers who got too close to the sordid truth.

Monty (part of the junior TGCoWD group), could handle the light stuff, like searching his mail and siccing the IRS on him. LouisB, obviously a senior leader of the cabal, could get the corrupt Sheriff to frame him up and get him locked away. I wish I could play, I’d love to see some of the cool Enemy of the State stuff you guys’ll use to track him down!

Or did I just spoil the surprise?

The Masonic organization has convinced its’ own members that they do not solicit members. The people that are actually doing the recruiting have been convinced it is not recruiting. Every identified mason in here has loudly protested and in fact denied to the bitter end that masons recruit. All the while they are recruiting. Any idiot with a brain can see it. This is dangerous. This is something called subversion. Subversion is not a good thing in general. When it occurs on a large scale, in this case a global scale, it is historically and inherently counter - productive to man kind in general. Sorry if I am coming off as an asshole but this is just “ignorance”.

For the sake of clarity, Willy, feel free to point out who, in this thread, is a Mason. Don’t worry about naming names… it’ll fit right in with your current behavior.

I am not convinced that Sweet Willey is a liar. IMO, Monty is often a little quick to use the “L” word, but that reflects the fact that I am reluctant to use this insult without the strongest proof.

Now then.
By one narrow definition, the Masons most definitely recruit, to the extent that they “enlist new members for a party or organization” or (alternatively) “[rare] replenish”.

Notwithstanding my Websters New World Dictionary however, “recruit” implies some level of promotion and, based on the evidence given in this board, it appears to me that Masons engage in what might be termed as a “soft sell”.

I would characterize their policy as one that formally avoids active recruitment, although some winking and nudging is permitted.

So, while I believe that S.W. has made some mischaracterizations, I vote “not guilty” on the lying charge.

More generally, Sweet Willey noted that his father had apparently engaged in some what I would call corrupt practices while a Mason, and was wondering how far up such corruption occurred.

I would note that the question, “Do [fill-in-the-blank] engage in world-wide corrupt practices?” is essentially a slanderous (libelous?) one and therefore might call for a level of tact that I don’t think S.W. exercised.

Furthermore, it appears that S.W. was over-extrapolating on the basis of the rumors he had heard about a local Masonic organization.

At the same time, methinks that certain institutional practices can tend to have the unfortunate consequence of advancing corruption. Such practices include:

  1. Secrecy.
  2. Non-transparent and implicit membership benefits.
  3. A policy where group loyalty demands that requests for aid be granted, perhaps in response to a codephrase. *
  4. A policy that is silent about whether aid should be granted if the request is illegal, immoral or both.

Frankly, I don’t know whether or to what extent the Masons have such practices. And while it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a lot of pols who were Mason members (politicians like joining local social organizations), it would surprise me if that fact amounted to didley-squat.

  • “Will nobody yada yada the widow’s son?”, as a hypothetical example.

Well, it flashes in my copy of Netscape and Opera, but it doesn’t flash in my copy of MS Internet Explorer.

I knew Bill Gates was behind this.:slight_smile: