Do they have animal shelters in Croatia?
The relative barbarity of drowning puppies aside, I don’t see much of an argument for it being crueler than letting them die of starvation and exposure.
Unless its all one great big whoosh, this board is pretty cat-centric. Not that the despicable actions shown in this video are any less…well, despicable.
Not to mention that gleefully chucking them one by one into a river is not how the average person who drowns a litter of puppies goes about it. You get a strong sack, put a heavy rock in the bottom, add puppies, tie it shut, and toss into deep water. Not that this method of drowning is pleasant but at least it’s faster than this happy little game.
And no, it’s not comparable to a slaughterhouse; those are faster and more humane deaths than being thrown in a river and left to struggle and die.
I’ve never understood why anyone thinks this statement will be believed. Of course there’s MUCH MORE outrage over (human) abortions. There are huge rallies on the mall about it; there are bumper stickers everywhere, people have murdered doctors for performing abortions; I wouldn’t be surprised if people have murdered doctors who have not performed abortions because they couldn’t be bothered to make the distinction; protesters have stood outside clinics for decades screaming about abortions.
And you regard (counts posts…six) six posts on a messageboard as more outrage than all that? What’s wrong with your perception of the world?
Don’t anybody interpret “faster and more humane” to mean slaughterhouses are actually humane by any standard.
Seconded.
I did use the modifier “more.” I’m a vegetarian, partially for animal welfare reasons.
The alternative is using dogs to chase them, dogs to clamp onto their ears until they are down and then shoot them.
Movie producers spend millions of dollars each on violent movies full of torturous scenes that attract the general public. Outraged about that ?
Damnit! Now you’ve put me off my stroke!
There is plenty of unfounded and ignorant outrage over abortion at any stage – far more than there is for incidents like this. People aren’t blowing up buildings and shooting people over outrage for puppies.
The phrase “late term abortion” doesn’t mean anything, by the way. That’s a political phrase, nor a medical one and it’s used to refer to anything past one trimester. The intent of the phrase is to create a false impression that elective abortions are performed in the third trimester, which they aren’t. “Late term” means second trimester.
Why not? They are, the overwhelming majority of the time.
Regards,
Shodan
People are cold and cruel. Someone does something horrible and films it. News at 11.
I’m upset that she was cruel for no reason other than to be cruel but I don’t think death threats and threats of violence are appropriate
That being said, if I lived in a different culture that didn’t consider (cute cuddly) animal’s lives to be equal to a human’s I would tell her she didn’t have to be so cruel about it and to next time find a more humane way of dealing with unwanted nuisance animals.
Because seriously, I’m getting tired of people calling her a murderer (not in this post but in other places I’ve read) They’re dogs, not people and thus are entitled to a basic level of compassion, but animals don’t have an inherent right to life. Why does our society have this overblown level of obsession over companion animals? I would really like to know how many people who are all up in arms over this have ever used a glue trap or warfarin? How many eat meat? The level of hypocrisy in the Western world over animals is ridiculous. It’s illegal to kill a dog because it’s a pet, but every other animal is fair game. All this being said, yes throwing the puppies in the river was cruel and she should be punished. But threatening institutionalization or physical violence toward a child is absolutely inappropriate and frankly would make me question their mental stability.
TL;DR Animals are not equal to people, but also should not be drowned.
Amen. People forget that in other countries, dogs are feared like we fear wolves. And the harmless ones are seen as pests like we see raccoons. The worst part is that there are people that will, on one hand, acknowledge that the animals need to be destroyed, but on the other hand, condemn the girl for not feeling bad about it.
Would you feel bad about shooting a raccoon? Better question: If you don’t feel bad about it, are you “pure evil”?
Once again, cute and fluffy emotions triumph over calm reason.
Under what circumstances is it possible to have a third-trimester abortion? Is a third-trimester abortion ever done to preserve the health of the mother? I imagine yes, and of course that’s obviously not an elective abortion.
How about to preserve the mental health of the mother? I suppose that’s not an elective abortion either.
But am I correct in assuming that ultimately, it’s up to the doctor involved? And as long as the doctor is willing to say that the mental health of the mother is at risk, a third-term abortion is permitted?
That depends on the state.
There are only three clinics in the US which perform third trimester abortions, and none of them do it to preserve the mother’s “mental health.” That’s Pro-Life fantasy, not reality. They are only performed when they are medically necessary, usually after the fetus is already dead or dying. Don’t believe the bullshit propaganda that women receive third trimester abortions because they are depressed. It doesn’t happen, and in most states that would be illegal anyway.
Could you please produce unbiased cites for each of the claims you have made above?
Regards,
Shodan
We’ve done all this in other threads before. I’m not going through it again. If you want to dispute anything above, it should be pretty easy to show a cite for any woman getting an elective third trimester abortion in the US.
I know it’s a cherished pro-life trope that healthy, full term fetuses are routinely hacked to pieces by cackling, evil abortionists at the whim of liberal, feminist women who suddenly decide in the ninth month that a baby wouldn’t match her shoes, but this is a complete hallucination. It doesn’t happen. If you think you can refute me, have at it. Show me proof that elective abortion happens in the third trimester.
Ooops, didn’t know this had it’s own thread. Once again;
The talk about how much attention is given, due to the type of animal that’s being abused, reminds me of an earlier thread.
Again; If these were baby chicks being thrown into a river, would people care as much? I admit I wouldn’t care as much, but ever since I was a part of the discussion I linked to, I’m not sure it’s any less “wrong”.