Girlfriend wants to move to US, thoughts?

Hi, I am new to the board. My gifriend who lives in another country wants to move where I am. The problem I am facing is just the tremendous cost of the flights. It costs around 2,500 dollars per flight. With the fiance visa requirement they require her to come here first, go back then wait for the visa to get approved. This costs around 5,000 dollars roughly.

Since she has a great educational background we opt to get a company sponsored visa. Basically the company does all the paper work and hopefully is one way. I am finding it to be a rather tough challenge to find a company able to do it though.

TL;DR: My girlfriend lives in another country and wants to live with me.

Do you know her (well) or is this some girl that’s asking you to wire her $7500?

Cynical, I know, but it’s pretty common.

It makes a huge difference what country she is from. Certain nations are harder than others. If you tell us her nationality, maybe someone will be able to help with the specifics.

Yeah. The more I read the OP, the more I wonder. If she’s got such great qualifications that she can get a company to sponsor her, then SHE ought to do that. Boyfriend shouldn’t be doing the search.

Yes, I know her very well, I know she’s not some catfish that just wants to be a citizen. In fact, I had to talk her into the idea of moving to the u.s. She is 100% with the idea. I can’t wait to find something for her.

She is from Africa, more specifically Tazania. She’s been doing the searching mostly herself. My father had a friend that said he was willing to share infomation with her and maybe get a job here locally. Problem is that every time he tries to send it, it is never received somehow. Gonna have to see if his willing to do it another way.

I don’t know if Gmail is blocking it or what’s the problem.

I kinda have a bad feeing about this - an I don’t even Recognize “Tazania”.

Try sending the info in an email with “read receipt” - from YOUR email id.

Kinda funny that anything which would help HER do the work disappears, so, golly gee, T-Minus, it looks like You’re going to have to do it…

Hint that the FIRST flight to the US is her responsibility - see if she runs.

It’s a little late in the year for this but – if you are near a major amusement park (Cedar Point, Paramount, Disney or related properties) chances are she can get a job (grunt work) and visa through them and with luck land something else while she is here. I know a couple people who have taken this route with success; but I also know of a few who tried and failed. These parks tend to work the heck out of the employees and it doesn’t always leave time for even phone interviews.

The finance visa only requires that the two of you have met, in person. I’m assuming since she’s your girlfriend, you’ve spent time with her in person, if not in Tanzania, then perhaps somewhere else. So she doesn’t have to come here for you to apply for the fiance visa.

I’m assuming, also, that since she’s your girlfriend, the point is to be together, somewhere–so what is your alternative?

A one-way flight from any major airport in the U.S. to or from Tanzania does not cost $2,500. It’s more like a little over $1,000. Did you do the search for flights yourself, or are you relying on what your girlfriend told you?

How long have you known this woman? Have you known her for years and have been seeing her on your vacations? If not, in what sense is she your girlfriend? Really, tell us about the relationship. How do we know that this isn’t someone catfishing you? If you’re not willing to give us a history of the relationship, you could be asking us help your girlfriend scam you.

Well, we met in some chat room November of last year. We fell instantly in love and have been talking to each other almost everyday. We never actually met in person, this year I was originally going to first meet her around Christmas. I was under the impression that she was going to finish her masters over there. Then I learned she just needs to write her thesis and send it in.

So instead of just visiting, we agreed we wanted to live together and start our own family. Excited at the idea of my own family with her, I had no problems with it. We regularly talk on webcam so I know she says who she says she is.

When I looked online, I found airline prices to be around 2,500 dollars for where I live. I will check out Disney and those places you mentioned.

Is this the first time money has come up? Have you sent money for any other expenses? Have you sent gifts?

I would strongly suggest you go and stay with her (or she comes to stay with you, if visas allow) for a week or two before you even think about any more long-term move. Meet her friends and family, get to know the place she lives at the moment. I know it’s all super-exciting, and you’re in love, but even when you live in the same town and you’re from the same place, getting married and living together can still lead to issues and misunderstandings. Even more so when you’re from such different cultures. To consider doing this without ever having met her in person is unwise, I think, regardless of the cost involved (which isn’t insignificant!)

Dumb question perhaps, but have you met her in person?

You need to meet her in person before any of this. If you’re smitten and in love and must pursue her, then you must travel yourself and meet her, while taking precautions for your own safety, to ensure that this is a real person who really loves you. It might even be a good idea to meet somewhere outside her home city, on “neutral turf”, so to speak.

You must absolutely be rational, since you have not met this person in person, and understand that there is a non-zero possibility that you are being deceived in some way. Many people have been as certain as you that they had met their true love online, only to find (after spending thousands of dollars) that they were being conned.

Please please take this possibility seriously. Maybe you’ve met your true love online – others have done this. But others have also been conned online. Be careful and don’t spend thousands of dollars on someone you’ve never met in person.

There’s no possibility she’s a scammer with a webcam?

  1. Never met in person. You wanted to meet, but oops, can’t happen now. Let’s just start a family instead! (??)

  2. Wants money so that she can live happily ever after with you.

  3. You tried sending immigration/employment papers to her but gmail blocked them? (??)
    Try sending money! See if that fixes her gmail issues. :slight_smile:

If you’ve never met face-to-face, she’s not your girlfriend. Also, there’s a high probability you’re being set up for a scam. Two red flags are 1) that you expected to meet her once already and it fell through, and 2) when you try to enlist a third party to help her help herself, the communications mysteriously don’t get to her.

The cynical side of me thinks this is her full-time job and she’s grooming a bunch of young men like yourself with similar storylines.

Ironically, the non-cynical side of me kind of thinks the same thing.

Good luck, and keep us posted. I think we’d all like to hear how this goes.

Right, and even if she is totally sincere, neither you nor she can say that you really know each other enough to commit to starting a family. Chatting on a webcam is not reality. It’s nothing more than TV that you can turn on or off at will when you feel like it. She may have convinced herself that she’s in love with you, and you may have convinced yourself that you’re in love with her, but that’s just all fantasy until you live together on a day-to-day basis, and have to face realities like family finances, and each other’s personal defects.

And if you think a few flights to Tanzania are expensive, remember that when you sponsor someone with a finance visa, you’re responsible for supporting that person entirely, whether she works or not. After three months you have to marry, and she has to apply for residency, along with continued permission to work. And after (if) she gets residency, you are financially responsible for her for ten years, whether you stay together or not, whether she works or not.

By the way–is she originally from Tanzania, or did she flee from the Congo?

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

I just did a quick check. I can get a person from Dar-es-Salaam to O’Hare and back for $1,197 including taxes. Add a couple of bucks if you need to get to a less international airport in the USA.

I smell catfish.

I’m sorry, T-Minus, but this has absolutely every single red flag of a con, and you must be extremely careful. I know how hard a person call fall for someone over the internet; it’s no joke and it’s not a sign of weakness or stupidity. It can happen. But scammers are experts at eliciting these emotions and the number of warning signs here are through the roof; you have been lied to about the travel cost, mysterious barriers arise again and again that place the onus on you to do things… I think maybe you should suggest a visit to Tanzania. You can get a flight for a good price. See how she reacts. Or meet up in a large airport in between, like Frankfurt or Paris; flights to big European airport cities aren’t expensive.