Gorgon, my post wasn’t meant to be directed at you (I agreed with most of what you said), but rather at Lamia. I think her point is completely valid, and I’m glad she posted, but my hope is that she’s wrong and in the long run girls smooching girls will make her life easier, not harder.
Assuming of course that your last post was in fact directed at my last post.
I agree that things will be better in the long run if society is more relaxed about same-sex affection, but when it’s trivialized by girls doing it only to turn men on, then that’s how it will be perceived–as trivial. It will do nothing to make the gay lifestyle more acceptable at all.
jar, If my husband saw me kissing another woman, there would be more than a spat in the bunny household! :eek: My hubby considers that cheating.
The only problem I would have with it (as my dating days are now over, thank god!) is that all the “girls gone wild”-types would be getting all the guys and a fun, nice, pretty, funny girl, like myself, is left alone all night. Dating in the early 90s was so much easier. No shows to put on… 
I’m bothered by the “freak show” display, which isn’t helping the gay community at all. When it’s true affection between gay folks who are just out to enjoy an evening with each other, is a crowd going to form with everyone doing the “Springer Chant” or making bets? It just seems counterproductive in the long run.
By the way, what exactly IS it that makes girl-on-girl sex so hot to guys? Serious question!
Girls are hot. One girl is hot…two hot girls are hotter.
It’s sort of simple. It’s why I like gay male porn. Two hot guys are hotter than one.
{{{Nutty Bunny}}}
Sadly, this probably does happen. But rest assured that a lot of guys would love to know where these girls hang out! We’d be there in a hot second!
There are guys who think that girls who are making out with other girls just need a good man to set them straight… as I said before. For me, I’ll kiss others in public be they male or female only if I am honestly attracted to them and would be interested in more.
Like I said putting it on just for show to get guys isn’t good. If it’s not the real you then you shouldn’t do it.
Lamia It’s a shame there are f***heads out there who will refuse to take no for an answer, and though what these girls in the op have done isn’t helping anything there will always be those guys out there who will refuse to believe that a female might not find them attractive, whether or not they are lesbians.
Gorgon Heap, thank you for the apology. It was both welcome and unexpected. However, I really do not wish to discuss this matter any further. If after my previous posts others still cannot recognize the troubling implications of what are essentially lesbian minstrel shows (“pink/lavenderface”?) then I do not think there is anything more I could say that would be sufficient explaination.
Understood. From my completely differeant perspective, though I have to say I have to agree with both obsidian and jarbaby.
I know you realize this does not affect my conceptualization of your particular viewpoint, but of a more generalized idea stemming from more … visceral ideology.
No hard feelings, love.
Oh, and Giraffe, that was indeed what I meant. Thank you for clarifying.
I’ve had a lot more experience kissing boys, but the girls were right in there in the middle when it came to quality.
Girls taste better.
I’d just like to say that there’s a world of difference between two lesbians sharing some intimacy in a bar and two girls obnoxiously making out while splayed across a gents lap.
I’m not male, but I can certainly tell the difference between two women who are obviously interested in one another and two women who are stealing glances at the crowd around them to find out who is and isnt falling for their little show.
I would honestly hope that a gent would be able to make this distinction as well.
but if they don’t, I can hardly see the difference between this and a single woman sitting at a bar by herself enjoying a beer. Many women do this in hopes of a gent striking up a conversation with her or buying her a drink. This sort of behavior makes it nearly impossible for a woman to go out by herself for a beer without wanting attention from the opposite gender. If I’m out people watching at a bar, the last thing I want is some schmuck who picks up women at bars to come up and hit on me. But following this logic, should I be upset with women who are expecting this reaction from the men around her?
Hey, you have this man’s sympathy. I think anyone who does anything in public “just to get attention” is acting pathetically. So, the girl can’t attract a guy with her charm/personality/looks or manners, so she’ll just make out with another girl? How sad. And attractive women engaging in this doesn’t make it any less embarassing. Since when is it cool to make a fool of yourself publicly, for no good reason?
Ah - this explains why so many women fall in love with me.
Carry on.
Esprix
On the contrary women bringing attention to themselves in public is a time honored mating strategy. If a behavior is effective at directing desiring male attention toward them it goes into the "stuff that works” toolkit. Not all girls are as witty and pretty as the competition and the faux sophisticated display of two heterosexual girls putting on a show is irresistibly attractive for many man for various reasons, some of which are more likely than not wired in. If it gives them a leg up on the competition and the social setting allows it don’t look for it to be discontinued anytime soon.
I was just discussing this phenomenon with hub this very day. One interesting thing is that because of my age (34) and geographic experiences (Tokyo, Paris, Philly, mostly) I’ve yet to see this particular phenomenon. I’ve seen lesbian women kissing, dancing and romancing in mostly gay/lesbian bars, but I’ve never seen they ‘Girls Gone Wild’ phenomenon* in action.
Until this past week, when I was in the States, I hadn’t even seen the ‘Girls Gone Wild’ commercial, which seems to air almost nonstop on some channels.
My reaction to this is quite simple: I feel the same level of disinterest/disdain/annoyance with the ‘for show’ girl-on-girl action that I felt for girls who dressed sexily (to attract men ONLY, not because they enjoyed it), did stupid cherry-in-a-knot |(to show off how advanced they were in tongue-nastics) and putting lipstick on from a tube that was lodged betwixt their breasts (to show off how big their boobs were?). It’s all for show, to get male attention and quite sad, really.
As long as there are men (or women?) who will respond to these types of pleas for attention; there will be women (or men?) who will do all sorts of silly things to make themselves noticed.
Frankly, I can see how this would be an annoyance if a lesbian couple are together in a mixed bar/club/whatever and people are hooting and hollering at them if they display affection for one another. It would be equally offensive if a MF straight couple were making out and a bisexual person said rude things and tried to get themselves included in the ‘fun.’
*Don’t these people worry that their parents/clergyperson/professors will see these advertisements on TV?
I thought someone already brought a lawsuit because of that. If not, it’ll happen before much longer.