For someone who’s accusing others of "reading comprehension(s) of (a) six-year old(s), you certainly can’t seem to remember exactly what YOU have written.
Even when called upon all you offer is a:
But.
Thing is, I’m a forgiving sort, and I’m always willing to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Hey. It’s my nature.
I mean… I might LOOK like a skanky ho, but I’m really not one at heart. (I kid, I kid. Really. I do. Love you. Mean it.)
If you actually read what I was trying to say in my previous posts is that it really doesn’t matter what your opinion is of girls with tattoos, or tattoos in general. What pissed me off is that you come up with WEAK evidence (your so-called ‘cites’ trying to link physical abuse with minor body modification) and that you ASSUME (in your OP) that a woman choosing her tattoo(s) is only based on following a trend and/or her lack of class.
Sure, you might have anecdotal evidence, but on solid fact, you’re in a leaky rowboat, my dahlink.
But, honestly, in all truth. I really don’t care or mind that you don’t like tattoos. That’s cool. Really. Just don’t assume (like you did in your OP) that a majority of men agree with you, or that women have done this because it’s a ‘fad’. Sure, some men may agree with you or some women feel pressured. shrug
Thank you for special point of view, Peach. Sounds like the swimming suits some of these girls will want to wear by then will have to be bought at the Taliban shop.
I imagine these tattoos on someone even older, with the edges losing their definition and the colors smearing into each other. Kids, before you start marring yourself permanently ask grandpa to show you his tattoo. Ain’t it cool? :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen the tatt on a middle-aged man, whom got said tatt when young? There are many such in the shops where I work. Faded. Believe me. Some are pretty bad.
Perhaps modern techniques help prevent this? I wouldn’t have any idea. Anyway, that’s all the ‘factual support’ I have for ya.
Have you ever seen the tatt on a middle-aged man’s arm, whom got said tatt when young? There are many such in the shops where I work. Faded. Believe me. Some are pretty bad.
Perhaps modern techniques help prevent this? I wouldn’t have any idea. Anyway, that’s all the ‘factual support’ I have for ya.
Actually, mod29, punha’s right. As per conversations with my own tattoo artist, ‘modern’ tattoo inks are made of pigments that are a lot finer and more widely dispersed within the ink solution, and the gun itself is able to distribute the ink more evenly. As a result, the ink does not fade or bleed nearly as much as the inks used say, pre-1960 or so. I’ll see if I can find some hard evidence on this, but it makes sense.
And just how much of your body are you going to be showing off at 80, anyways? How is an aged tattoo going to be any more of an embarassment than, say, a colostomy bag? Just how important is your body image going to be to you at that point either?
Actually, mod29, punha’s right. As per conversations with my own tattoo artist, ‘modern’ tattoo inks are made of pigments that are a lot finer and more widely dispersed within the ink solution, and the gun itself is able to distribute the ink more evenly. As a result, the ink does not fade or bleed nearly as much as the inks used say, pre-1960 or so. I’ll see if I can find some hard evidence on this, but it makes sense.
And just how much of your body are you going to be showing off at 80, anyways? How is an aged tattoo going to be any more of an embarassment than, say, a colostomy bag? Just how important is your body image going to be to you at that point either?
Don’t take the metaphor so literally.
Of course if I saw a person with a nasty head wound I would immediately feel the same way, but our man is not holding a bandage up to his head, he is not doing anything to stop the blood and puss, he is just happily going about his way. I would still think “poor dear”, but after a moments observation I would wonder if he is insane, or “effected” by the wound. If I found out that he was neither, but just liked to keep the wound, I would consider him sick no matter what the significance of it to him.
To make value judgments is not close-mindedness. Quite the opposite, it means that you have considered and judged the thing, something that would be impossible for someone who “closed their mind” and refused to give it any consideration.
Too not like something does not mean you are small-minded or intolerant.
Nothing to do with reading comprehension, just a crappy memory. All of that time I had only been considering my post in this thread and had forgotten exactly what I wrote in the first. I just assumed that it was nearly the same thing. It was a stupid mistake and I feel like a jackass for saying that without double-checking all of my postings on the subject.
Well, the image degradation starts a lot sooner than 80 and it’s guaranteed, unlike your colostomy bag example, though modern techniques are improved. And there are people above the age of 30 who are justifiably proud of how well they have warded off the effects of extreme age. :rolleyes:
Muad, your first mistake was stating what is the conventional view of a large number of people, the automatic and culturally-based association of tattoos with low-lifes. Your second mistake was arguing with teenagers; never a profitable way to spend your time, energy, or fingertips. Third was to argue with people who have purposely and permanently marred themselves (probably to to detriment of their professional potential because many, many people in positions of hiring and promotion power agree with you whole-heartedly) and who need to justify their self-destructive action by citing their rights to self-expression and to do with their bodies what they please (which is true to this silly and superficial extent) and citing tattooing’s long history (also true, but the same can be said of many things; just because many-times-great grandma did it doesn’t make it a good idea).
I hope so. By that time, I probably won’t have much else going on, so if I give a little to talk about (right up there with who’s-wishing-they-were-doing-who and what we’re eating for brunch), more’s the better.
Geez. I’d think that those who favor tattoos would be the first to speak up against the whole teenage tattoo fad that takes credibility away from the whole art form…
I mean, come on! Obviously the tribal tattoo on the small of the back has quickly become a faddish/skanky sort of thing. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you need to watch more MTV (har har)
Whoa, whoa whoa buddy. Back the FUCK up here. Have you not read a single one of the counter posts here you dim-witted assfuck? Teenagers? Not fucking hardly.
Marred to the detriment of their professional potential? Okay, let me just tell you a few things that might make your head spin. Ready?
Not only am I tattooed, but I’m a republican ::gasp!:: I was vice president of my local chapter of college republicans. To top it off, at the time not only did I have my tats / piercings, but half my head was shaved and I had corn rows. When I was still a teenager (19) I was promoted to store manager at the job I held. That meant that I was the boss. I was in charge. I had 25 employees under me, and a million dollar producing store under my control.
When I was 20, I bought my first house. I’m now 23 and I work in political operations for the largest lobbying company in the entire state of Florida. I make more money than most people my age hope to make in the next ten years. Dress code is business formal – suits with jackets and skirt. My tattoos are always visible. That was never even a consideration. As a matter of fact, when I was hired I first tried to hide them by wearing long sleeves and black pantyhose. My boss asked me why I was covering them up!
So, you shit-faced sorry ass excuse for a bag of flesh, you want to judge people, go right ahead. But I feel sorry for you. Someday you’re going to underestimate the wrong person and get your balls stapled to your forehead or your ass to the wall.
I know you prefaced that with a ‘probably’ but I’m not in that kind of position in my career. Considering I’m a chef, my tattoos have never been a detriment to my getting a job, and truth be told, I’ve even had a few ‘show and tells’ with my superiors. So, as always, YMMV.
I know I wouldn’t stand a chance doing that at a Fortune500 company, but that’s not my chosen path in life, anyways. If I had gone that route, chances are I’d not have tattoos (or, at least have ones that are not easily shown in public).
Oh, and FWIW the CEO and half the staff in my company also have tattoos. At 24, I’m one of the youngest employees. 90% of the staff is 40 or older, and all make enough money to be considered rich by democratic ideology.
