Girls, stop getting all of these tattoos, ya look skanky.

Be sure to not let your thumb get caught on anything.

XJETGIRLX, unfortunately, I don’t think someone who keeps repeating that people with tats are marring their bodies with chosen disfigurements is going to get any further than arguing with the guy who seems to seriously think that there’s a legitimate comparison with an oozing wound.

I gotta say these guys are making visible tattoos sound remarkably appealing, though. Mmmmmm, turn-offs.

As long as you remain careful not to get your head permanently trapped in your ass.

No. Your shared mistake with the op is that you are going on outdated perceptions borne of your obviously insular lives and behaving as if you know the prevaling mores of society and we’re just a conglomeration of rebellious teenagers.

Working for you or with you has to be a rare treat, somewhat akin to willingly shoving one’s hand in a garbage disposal.

:rolleyes:

Yes, because if someone does not agree with **Mockingbird
**, they must be outdated, insular jerks.

What open-minded, tolerant thinking. I am sure that you must be a dear to be with, so long as no one disagrees with you. I am surprised that you have not called anyone a Nazi yet.

People with tattoos certainly do have to live with a stigma, but outside of personal aesthetic preferences (which shouldn’t carry too much weight when judging others), there’s no real reason for the stigma. It’s simply a societal convention, running on its own inertia and existing for no real purpose. Denying this stigma would be a mistake (especially if you’re looking for a job in the professional sector), but that doesn’t mean that the stigma continues for good cause.

As for tattoos someday becoming high art - I would reword that: Tattoos mights someday become high art from a societal perspective. In my opinion, they already are high art.

I’d also like to remind you that others will likely have very different opinions about whether a tattoo conforms to a body or a body conforms to a tattoo.

You’re an idiot, not a Nazi.

I am saying that your perception of the mass belief that your perspective is the prevaling one is flawed.

And I do think you are an outdated, insular jerk who is expecting the world to conform to his narrow perspective.

People can disagree with me as much as they want. None of my friends would trot out such a moronic view as yours and expect it to go unassailed.

You must be a dear to be with since your head is so deeply imbedded in your ass that they would require a Jaime Sommers’™ bionic implant to hear you.

You are just a bigoted intolerant twit who has to stoop to calling people names and assuming they are stupid when she can’t argue with them.

pot, kettle, yada yada.

::yawn::

  1. I’m a guy.

  2. You are stupid.

  3. I and others have argued and you still see fit to be an intolerant pompous ass.

  4. I’ve done much more than call you names, you just choose to ignore that because it suits you.

  5. FOAD

I think that tattoos are ugly and that people who get them most often look the worse for it and you don’t like that? Well fuck you and learn to grow up. Is there nothing that you dislike? If so, then you must be narrow-minded. Is there no music that grates on your nerves? If so then you must just be stupid. Have you ever said “Man, that’s ugly.”? Then you must be an idiotic, outdated, insular jerk who is just to dumb to recognize that, so long as there is a single person that disagrees with him (if even then), you have no right to pass judgment on anything. You should learn to be less intolerant with your tolerance.

No argument there. As I said earlier, the views I hold ARE old-fashioned and are to be taken as those of an old fart who knows that his views are not stylish. That does not make my views any less valid than yours.**

Well, yeah, you’re right there BECAUSE I DO KNOW THE PREVAILING MORES OF SOCIETY! And tattoos and other body art are more acceptable now than they once were, but are still not entirely accepted, especially in more culturally conservative areas. That doesn’t make my automatic reaction different.**

No, you will notice I also suggested that some of you are FORMER rebellious teenagers who have to justify a permanent action they took when they were teens.**

Well, you might get the occasional ribbing but it’s not THAT bad. Bear in mind that I was describing my automatic reaction the “prevailing mores of society,” not the way I would actually treat you or the view I would have of you after I got to know you.

I am impressed with your accomplishments. Apparently you have tasteful and attractive tattoos if you can be an effective lobbyist. (Warning–cheap shot I don’t entirely mean but can’t resist after her “shit-faced sorry ass excuse for a bag of flesh” comment coming up!) Then again, the older farts in the Florida legislature might pretend to go along with you because they think your tattoos make you look easy.

So, our views are not more valid than yours, but your are more valid than ours? I think you do not know the prevailing mores of society, merely the mores of your particular segment of it. They certainly do not match my experiences.

Well, I’ll keep that in mind if I ever move to North Carolina. Mind you, I’d sooner give myself a razor blade and Drano enema than move to North Carolina. No offence to North Carolinians, but if you told me California was going to slide into the ocean in a month, I’d start saving up for scuba tanks.

Different than what?

Let’s ignore for the moment that that’s not at all what you said, I’ll just mention that I got my first tattoo when I was twenty-six. I’m planning on getting my second some time next year, when I’ll be twenty-eight. Two of my friends got tattoos for their thirtieth birthdays. Everyone else I know with a tattoo got them in thier twenties. The only person I know who got a tattoo as a teenager is my mom, who got hers when she was eighteen. And, as I believe I mentioned earlier in this thread, hasn’t regretted it for a day.

So, what you are saying is that being a rebellious teenager is a state of mind, not a chronology? :wink: Anyway, you’re a guy and we’re talking about how tattoos look on women.

At no point have I said that my culturally defined, automatic reaction was more VALID than anybody else’s. I have merely stated that it was my (need I reiterate?) culturally defined, automatic reaction. I never said it was praiseworthy, merely that it was common and was something that could damage one’s future in some careers.

Oh, b/c we all know that the whole democratic party is in awe of your astounding wealth :rolleyes:

No, jackass. I threw that in to refute these half-wits who seem to think that a predilection towards tattoos is a lower-class phenomenon, and at the same time get a small political gibe in. Christ. Touchy much?

I don’t give a fuck what any of you say.

Chicks with tattoos are hot!

The former Mrs. Batty probably would have scared half you to death with her art.

Dear, I don’t know HOW MANY TIMES I have to say it, but “a predilection towards tattoos is a lower-class phenomenon” WAS MOSTLY ONLY TRUE WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND WHEN MY ATTITUDES WERE BEING FORMED. (Remember, I am twice your age.) Automatic reactions, even ones that a person tries actively to put behind him, do not vanish overnight; you can only make an effort to work around them and not let them control you. I find tattoos, piercings, and breast implants unattractive. SO WHAT?!?!? What do you care what I think? Why even defend yourself? We’ll probably never meet and if we do I’ll be happy to not make negative comments about your tattoos if you don’t make any about my weight.

Sheesh!

(Politics, though, will still be fair game. :wink: )

Oh, I see. So suddenly your political stereotypes trump their political stereotypes? Wait, who was it earlier that made a comment about a pot calling a kettle black? Oh, that’s right, it was you. How ironic.

Well, hijack over. Please continue, guys…

Nope, no stereotype. You see, the democrats opposed the president’s tax cut claiming that it would only benefit the ‘rich’, which by their definition is those who make $100k +. Personally, I don’t think that’s ‘rich’, but by democratic ideology it would seem to be.