Coldfire defends:
No one does, that’s the problem. Fat people are fair game, right? They bring it on themselves, they are gluttons, they deserve to be ridiculed, either individually or collectively. Their very existance is cause for hilarity, yes? What could be more knee-slappingly delightful than comparing fat people to whales? (which of course is not to denigrate whales in any way, since they are extremely bitchen creatures. But we all know that comparing people to whales is not a way of saying: “What a marvelous and wondrous example of evolutionary adaptation and intelligence you are!”)
I never suggested that TV, who I am sure thinks of herself and probably is in general a nice person, was making a dig at me or any particular person. Nor Tennhippie. But that’s the problem. How well would it go over among any blacks in our ranks if I were to make a gag, not directed at anyone in particular you understand, about how like monkeys negroes are? Would it be unfair for any blacks among us to take offense? Isnt’ it just a harmless bit of joking around?
Furthermore, I was attempting to illustrate to TV how incongruous it is that she would find my exposed flesh on the beach a justifiable reason for hilarity and derision, when in fact she thinks of me, through my contributions to this board, as a rather special person of fine qualities.
I know, because I happen to be smart that way, that 95% of all humor that is based on making fun of people’s physical imperfections springs from insecurity. If we can point at that guy and laugh at him, we are a little safer from it ourselves. But that is A: not really very funny at all. b: cruel and c: pathetic.
I have rarely heard in my life a joke about someone’s physical inadequacies or imperfections (fat, bald, short, acned, etc.) that was anything like witty or sharp. They are almost all simply mean and obvious. I don’t think they’re funny. (One exception off the top of my head: Louie Anderson talking about how when he was a kid the snowballs never hit him, they went into orbit around him. THAT was clever and made me laugh. Because it was clever, not because the idea of poor fat Louie was so damn funny.) As a fat person (I don’t dick around with the terminology; I’m not a “person-of-adipose”) I’m SICK of listening to people make mean, stupid, pointless “jokes” about fat people (bald people, ugly people - the cracks about Janet Reno and Linda Tripp offend me completely. If you don’t like them as people, attack their ideas, words and bahavior, not their appearance!) and act like it’s alright. It’s not.
I don’t think TV is inherently mean. I think she is like the majority of people: ignorant and thoughtless. She should think. So should you.
Stoid
Confident enough to take a stand
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