Of course it wasn’t just one insensitive question. After he was called out for the insensitive question, he wouldn’t let it go. He made several posts after the first, all berating the OP for allowing someone to impregnate her. Just because a mod put a stop to it doesn’t mean he’s any less of a jerk.
Once again, you are mistaken. I never berated anyone.
I quite deliberately never called you any names. There is a big difference between acting douchey and being a douche. Instead of getting all defensive and rude it might behoove you to consider that your behavior was inappropriate. To be perfectly honest, I don’t think your comments were much more terrible than many of the others in that thread, but your behavior in this thread is really setting you apart.
Huh? Pregnancy is always the fault of the woman. It’s also always the fault of the man. (Barring the obvious exceptions). Although fault of may be a poor choice of words; responsibility of, or “result of the actions of” may be better.
Name calling is a sure sign of unoriginality and dull wittedness. I have not called anyone any names; you have.
The question I posed WAS simple and straightforward, and WAS simply and straightforwardly answered by the person I posed it to.
Re-read that thread, but before you do, take a time out to get a grip: your imagination is out’ta control.
Just re-read your 1st post. Your definition of name-calling must be different than mine.
My posts in this (and the other thread) were and remain appropriate and I am pleased, given the lack of quality of the posts made by you and some of the others in this thread, that they are setting me apart.
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Name calling may be a sign of unoriginality but it doesn’t necessarily negate truth.
So, if you actually are a dull witted jackass and are called such then arguments of originality will fade away.
Do you understand gms453, you dull witted jackass?
I try and stay out of other people’s bedrooms. Fewer problems all the way around, you know. Plus, it saves on the brain bleach.
As any twisted fork will tell you, being unique is not the same as being useful.
Actually it struck me as a more polite way of asking, “If you knew he was a lazy, dirtbag, why did you continue the pregnancy?” And continuing the pregnancy, at least in most of the first world, is an option completely at the control of the pregnant woman. It’s a question I often want to hear a reasonable answer from women in bad idea pregnancies. So far not a single women continuing an assine pregnancy has ever been able to come up with reasonable justification.
She made a decision to sign a prenup 16 years ago and people seem to be giving her hi-5s over that decision.
She made a few decisions 16 years ago. She decided to have sex with this guy, she decided NOT to have an abortion, she decided to marry this guy.
My law school professor used to say that people signed prenups in anticipation of divorce and they were rarely ever disappointed.
It was pretty revolting to hear her crowing about getting to keep almost everything from their 16 year marriage (if you want to call it that).
I suspect that beneath your offensively and vulgarly effeminate façade there may be a soul of sorts. Have you read widely in Boethius?
Olive didn’t call you a name. She was referring to how your comment came across.
You mistake the reposes in this thread as people trying to win an argument with you. That is not the case.
You’ve been called a troll, and honestly, you’ve done nothing to prove otherwise.
I thought so too. Apparently the fact she made a baby with this guy makes everything else she does OK, even tho it looks like she lead him into the idea that she would support him in his desire to become a rock star. I’m quite sure that if the roles were reversed and some guy was dumping his wife with almost nothing, no one would be happy about it despite how awful she may have been. Especially if the man was taking the daughter with him after the divorce. There just seem to be too many people blinded by the presence of children and/or of the opinion that women need as much help as they can get, or they will wither away and die.
gms453’s question could have been better phrased, but really - why was she having sex with a guy she knew was a bum? And get pregnant, and continue the pregnancy, and keep the baby, and marry the guy? And then crow about dumping him on his ass 16 years later?
I stopped reading that thread before the end of the first page because it had devolved into a big mess by about the third or fourth post. It seems weird that, out of all the things in that thread to pick out, this just doesn’t really strike me as something that sticks out above all the other stuff there.
I have to agree here. He certainly didn’t say it the best way, but it seemed to me he was basically just asking why she was sleeping with a guy she had assessed to be a dirtbag. Regardless of the sex, why would someone sleep with someone they think is scum? And worse, if you do, why would you not take the precautions to, if you’re a woman, get pregnant, and if you’re a man, get her pregnant? Unless rape or lying about fertility/birth control is involved, the person making the bad choice of sleeping with a dirtbag has a fair share of the responsibility.
In all that, it really didn’t have much bearing on the thread because people do make mistakes, especially if it was 16 years in the past and it really doesn’t have much bearing on the current situation. Some people are foolish and hope they can change, in this case, as was said upthread, it looks like there was some hope that his musical career would pan out, but guys make the same sort of mistake ending up with terrible women, just generally for slightly different reasons.
I just don’t see trolling here. I could see some justification for some lack of sensitivity, lacking of subtlety, maybe being a jerk, but I don’t see trolling.
How exactly would a non-troll respond to this thread?
I’m new to the role of white knight (as a general rule, I don’t approve of being nice to people) but in this thread there’s a lot of posters putting words into the mouth of gms that he never said.
It’s easy (especially on the internet) to get baited into responding “No, you’re the jackass!” Gms hasn’t done that. Nor has he said anything disparaging about Foxy beyond the original question.
Sometime’s a cigar is just a cigar. There might not be all this secret troll subtext some people seem so desperate to find. I’ll tell you what, if gms comes back later and starts claiming he’s a sexy quadriplegic I’ll publicly recant and admit he’s a troll.
I can give you a pretty good example of how a troll would respond, if that helps.
Oh come on, you’re not even allowed to fuck with people a little bit if they’re ones who start a pit thread insulting you?
I’m serious, how was he supposed to respond? Should he have gone all, “No, YOU are the ones who are the ball-lickers! I’m taking this melodramatic pitting very seriously!”
Now the best way to respond to a pit thread is usually to ignore it, but I’m not going to fault the guy for responding and having a bit of fun with the offenderatti once they blew their gaskets.
Whoa. Troll reversal! What an upset, folks!