Now, I hear a lot of arguement on this board of how Christians are held to standards that atheists are not. While I understand the frustration, I think there are very few Athiest websites that are this cruel and full of hate. I think that may be where the double standard comes from. We have rarely heard of an athiest doing something this harmful and horrible. If you have time, check out Matthew Shepard’s Message From Hell. It was honestly one of the most disturbing things i’ve ever run across.
I am aware that most Christians will find this as horrible as I did. I know this isn’t the typical Christian response. I have friends who are Christian who thought it was abominable. I just would like to hear what you guys think about all this and see if there IS in fact an Athiest exivalent. (SP?)
Welcome torie. Do a search on the words “Fred Phelps.” You’ll find people here are quite familiar with this wack job.
And speaking as an atheist, I know full well that he doesn’t speak for anybody but a small sad group of fearful, ignorant phobes. Not just homophobes, but “everybody-who-doesn’t-agree-with-me” phobes.
I have visited a few unpleasant sites ( including Stormfront and NAMBLA) while following up discussions on these boards, but that was the only one I could not read through ( I visited it a few months ago). Just as Phil Spectre had a Wall of Sound, this site has a Wall of Hate which repulsed me so much that I could not progress beyond the first page.
This nutjob’s “church” is really his extended family that he’s brainwashed and abused into following his commandments. They believe that only those Fred chooses will truly make it into Heaven. Mr. Phelps was defrocked by his denomination years ago and disbarred from practicing law because he was clogging the system with useless and irrelevant lawsuits in hopes of getting settlement payments outside the courts. In short: this man is not religious, unless worship of oneself counts.
Oh geez, Fred Phelps. I check the schmuck’s site every day to read his pathetic rants. I don’t find him disturbing anymore, I just laugh at what a loon this guy is.
That is why I don’t take the guy seriously. For the Internet-filter-impaired, it’s a site done in black background with Matt Shepard’s (Matt Shepard being that gay kid in Wyoming a few years back who got tied to a fence and beaten) head floating on a pool of flames, with a high-pitched .wav or .mp3 file of about .02 bit quality yelling “AUUUUGHHH! FOR GOD’S SAKES, LISTEN TO PHELPS!” It’s just so juvenile and over-the-top that I can’t help but just laugh at the ol’ nutcase now.
I disagree strongly that this is a “Christian” site. This is a “nutcase” site.
He has no real following at all, and the site does not represent the viewpoint of any real Church.
That being said, I do know that the Southern Baptists do indeed consider Gay sex a sin, however, even they- the most conservative and Fundamentalist of the major churchs- do not “hate” homosexuals like this loonie.
Please please please realise that not all Christians are like this guy!
I’m what I guess you could call an Evangelical Christian, although a lot of times I like to distance myself from that title. I believe in God, Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible, and I DO NOT believe that “God Hates Fags”.
For the record, neither do I, and yes I do know, and socialise with many homosexuals.
It’s just another example of a biggot hiding behind a cross.
Please just ignore this man. He’s irrelevant to the Gospel.
Phelps is in many ways similar to the monkeys masturbating at the zoo; they do it all the more when people watch and if you get too close, you’ll end up getting soiled.
