Goodbye

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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Today I feel bummed out. I have decided to stray the SD. It hurts and I am truly sad. It all happened because I went into chat totally drunk a few times, and at the time I said some things which didn’t seem bad or offensive, but people took them that way. And then I got mobbed, as well as a wonderful person that was on my side, in a pit thread. What hurts even more is that a few people went to the length of lying about things I did or said which strengthened some others case against me. Honestly I have tears in my eyes now and my body feels limp. Just when you feel to be getting respect someplace, it gets torn apart. It all just doesn’t make sense and I feel empty. Maybe I don’t seem of a sensitive person on the outside but I really am on the inside. It hurts to say goodbye over here, but I feel I must. Things just got too personal and almost nobody cared to realize there was an actual person on the recieving end of the crap. I just feel now like I cannot contribute over here anymore with out feeling emotionally stabbed. I may come back someday, but I really doubt it. Goodbye.

::Silo waves::

[signing off]

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Either go or stay, it doesn’t matter to me because after this post it’s off to Coventry with you as far as I’m concerned. However I have a few things to say to you first.

If you will go and look at the thread in the pit, everyone said they wanted Techchick to stay. Just because someone doesn’t agree with what another person says does not mean they are mobing them.

People have their own opinions and the right to express them. This is also true of those who disagree with those opinions.

Nobody likes everyone Silo, that is life. I am sure that some folks here feel ill everytime they see my screen name. I can deal with that. You need to learn to do the same.

And why is it that everyone else is lying and you are always the poor misunderstood innocent ? I don’t doubt you are a real person, with real feelings. But you are not totally innocent here.

I have never said this to anyone here but, climb off that cross Silo we need the wood.

That’s it I’m done with you, in any place on the net, under any name you use.

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Silo, sensitivity isn’t what you feel. Dump vinegar onto a buncha amoeba swimming around and they’ll shrivel.

Sensitivity is what you extend out from your experience, and recognize in others. So you messed up. Welcome to the damned human race. You’ll never find a more assorted, experienced, cross-grained but kindly group in your life. Every damned one of us has totally blown opportunities, did things we regret…and have been funny, profane, bogglingly obscene at times but usually tolerant for all that.

If that was an apology and a plea for pity, it doesn’t even start to cut it. An apology admits wrongdoing, asks the actual victims for some slack, and doesn’t presume anything. An apology says, “I messed up; sorry for the hassle I caused; will try not to do it again”.

I’ll tell you what an apology doesn’t do: it doesn’t tromp on others then pout at the reaction, and it doesn’t place self above others.

You aren’t apologizing; you’re whining. People make mistakes, and folks around here are much kindlier than most, in a rough and tumble way. If your pathetic “apology” and farewell had taken responsiblity towards others, and less whining, perhaps they’d be more credible.

Perhaps it best that you leave for a while, until you learn that other people are just as vulnerable as you claim to be.

Veb

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** Mike, ** my oldest son has just turned twenty years old (still SO shocking!) and I’m going to tell YOU the same thing that I would tell him if he had written what you just did.

People will only take you as seriously as you take yourself. If that doesn’t come out to much, you are the one that started it, and you’re the only one who can change it. BUT one of the consequences of doing something stupid is there are some who won’t EVER forget the stupid thing. They wouldn’t have had that impression unless YOU gave it to them. PERIOD.

Now the good news is, taking that blunt tact is powerful, it means you are in charge of yourself. NO ONE ELSE. If you cower behind someone hoping to hide in their reputation, you’re not gaining ANYTHING of worth for yourself. You are merely tarnishing them. If you care for someone, you DON’T do that. Self respect comes from DOING things that earn the respect of others.

You’re a young guy, and you put on airs to cover up who you really are because you’re afraid. But see, you don’t fool anyone. People see through that and have no respect for that kind of act, pity maybe, but do you really want that?? Pity is one of the weakest emotions there is, it gives you nothing, and takes a great deal away.

Leave if you want to, but that’s the easy way isn’t it?? It is much tougher to stick it out and own up, REALLY own up to your own actions. Stop hiding behind someone else. You’re big enough to get involved in these boards, you’ll have to be big enough to take the consequences of your actions. You want it different?? Take charge of your life. STOP drinking, it isn’t going to help take the fear away, it will only add to the airs you already put on to hide.

My ‘mom’ .02 cents worth.

Judy

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Once again, I couldn’t have said it any better than TVeblen. And rest assured Mike, I certainly couldn’t have worded it so polite.

At least Techchick had a viable excuse for her offensive behaviour, which is why people accept her decision to leave for a while. Your post in here, after already having said you were leaving in the Pit, is pathetic. Once again taking a jab at the people who rightfully called you on your behaviour, you degrade your farewell to a cheap martyr act.

Tasteless.

And that’s all I’m gonna say on this matter: frankly, this all stems from people taking this board and the chat room WAY too seriously. I, for one, am not going down that road.

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Silo, I was so amazed that you came back after the Michael Masterson thing.

I could not believe that you were brave enough and man enough to admit you were acting like an idiot and ask that we overlook that. Coming back here and resuming posting after some of the crap you posted as MM took some guts. I don’t think I could have done it–I know many people on this board could not have.

Sure, some people here hate you. So what? Who cares what they think? You have to do things for you but always keep in mind that what you do affects people. It’s one of the hardest balancing acts you can ever accomplish in life.

I know that things have gotten a little crazy around here with what happened in chat and with techchick leaving but please reconsider leaving permanently.

I think techchick is right in her views about you–I think you are probably a really great guy who just says the “wrong” thing sometimes. You remind me much of someone very close to my heart and it bothers me to see you want to throw away what could be many wonderful friendships on the board just because of a few people and some incidents that got blown out of proportion.

Some people on the board are always going to dislike you. Some people IRL are always going to dislike you. But there are some people here–myself included–that like you how you are.

I just think that things have gotten really screwed up recently and if you feel you should take some time to regroup, then please do so. But don’t leave forever. This is a great place–sometimes you just have to ride out the waves.

P.S. Please be extra nice and caring with techchick until she feels like she can come back. She seems to be going through a really rough patch at the moment and she needs some good friends like you on her side.

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SMACK!

::Door hitting you in the ass::

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Fuck, fuck, fuck…

::Door hitting you in the ass (twice now)::

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See ya SighLo, It’s been real.

-Sam

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I don’t have a problem with you either way, Silo, as far as whether you stay or go. My problem with you is that you involved Techie in this mess. No matter how you sugar-coat it, you are the reason that things have gone down the way they have with her. You have caused her a lot of hurt feelings, caused other people hurt feelings, and yet you still whine. You are one selfish person with no consideration of someone else’s feelings.
I’m sick of hearing about how people justify coming on the Net and acting like morons under the excuse they were drunk. Get a hint, either don’t drink, or don’t post on the Net while you are drinking. That’s a poor excuse for messing with people’s heads. Don’t expect people to understand or even tolerate stupid behavior simply because you chose to drink.

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I don’t really know you Silo but I have seen the “you’re taking me up wrong” / “It’s not me it’s you” posts coming from you a lot . It can’t be always other posters fault .

And as to your *friendship / little brother * realtionship with Techchick , that worked out well for her didn’t it . :rolleyes:

Grow a pair and fight your own battles .

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Silo is Michael Masterson???

Three strikes, you’re out, dude.

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Silo…
So you spouted off, so some people got mad at you…
They’ll get over it and so will you.
Suck it up bro, and take the lumps like a man. It’s going to be OK.

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Silo, there’s a whole slew of people on this board who don’t attend chat sessions and who have no idea what you’re talking about. We don’t know enough about you to hate you or love you. So stay or go. It’s up to you.

Some unsolicited advice: If you’ve offended people, for pete’s sake APOLOGIZE if you want to preserve their friendship.

Some more unsolicited advice: Popularity has no place in the adult world. Don’t make a huge announcement “I’m leaving! Goodbye!” and expect people to beg you to stay. Come here because you WANT to be here. If you’re having fun, stay. If you’re not having fun, leave.

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Oh, not this again.

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You know, in TC’s thread I posted a couple times offering support in many ways. And I’ve always liked TC, and thought she was an asset to the board and our community. Her troubles have brought me great sadness, as I really felt for her. And Silo, I thought you were pretty decent - I really didn’t know you that well, but lots of people had good things to say about you, and you seemed pretty cool. Seriously.

And then there was this:

Posting a flame by proxy is a dishonerable act, and it makes me very, very sad to see this sort of cowardice on both of your parts. TC could have re-registered as a new user if she had something to say, or she could have taken her own suggestion in that repulsive piece of trash and addressed pepper directly. And you were WRONG for enabling this. Aside from the fact that the flame doesn’t even really make any sense no matter how you look at it, it was gratuitous, nasty, filthy, and has changed my attitude completely.

I’m sure the “ring (sic) your god-damned neck” directed at pepper was in the heat of the moment, and had no actual threat behind it. I sure hope it wasn’t an IRL threat, otherwise I can get real fucking nasty. IRL nasty, not this-fucking-soap-opera-on-the-net-nasty. You have no idea.

But then again, since saying something like that is so unlike how kind and thoughtful you normally are, I can only assume you’ve had some sort of serious neurological breakdown. It’s happened to me too, dear, I’m not mocking you. Far from it. Of course, when I was in this state I rejected a lot of reasonable advice too, so I imagine you will as well.

One more stunt like that and I will excommunicate you and Silo from my online life, like I mentioned in the other thread. If you think I’m that really that wrong, or simply want me to go to hell, or don’t care, then by all means let me know and I’ll ex’ you. But I’d rather be your friend guys - someone else you can talk to, make jokes with, commiserate with. Search the board - have I ever flamed, insulted, or even criticized either of you before? The answer is : NO.

And who am I to dare criticize you now? I’m no one you need care about. I’m a relative newcomer, not an RP at all, but may someday become one. You had my respect TC, but it’s gone - now, but not necessarily forever. But then again, I’m nobody important.

Admit that you were wrong, apologize to pepperlandgirl publicly here. TC, you at a minimum owe her a decent, heartfelt apology, or you will never be accepted back here like you once were. I speak for 3 others that have e-mailed me, not just myself. And no, I’m not going to post their comments - they can do that themselves. The only e-mail I post is threats from others.

Please take a break, love yourself, apologize to pepperlandgirl, and then let’s all get back to being friends again.

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Thank you Anthracite.

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GuanoLad, I’d just like to point out that Silo has never made a secret of his identity: He’s mentioned that his father’s last name is Masterson, and I believe it’s come up that his first name is Mike. Heck, he’s even answered outright to anyone who’s asked: See the thead, What were your past usernames on the Straight Dope?. He could have just as easily ignored that thread, or said something like, “I posted under my real name for a while”.

As for the incident currently under discussion, I wasn’t there, so I can’t comment.