I am soooo fucking pissed right now!!!!!!

The BBQ Pit
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Here’s the deal folks, you don’t like someone, fine put them on your ignore list in chat…I am livid over the events that happened tonight in chat. I am so pissed I could extract some intestines from some asses right now.

You got a problem with a particular poster, fine, I have a few I can’t stand. Those that bug me I pretty much ignore.

NEVER kick me from chat, you got a beef with me then address it with me directly. That was fucking bullshit! I didn’t do or say anything that warrants a kick. I am so fucking pissed right now I am about to call off the Vegas trip all together. I can’t do that because some people already have their hard earned cash dedicated to the trip. I may just say, hey, I will be there and you folks do your own fucking thing cause I am not going to be a part of it. If someone wants to take over the whole thing, by all means please do because my want or need to do anything for people on this board has changed to a great degree.

I am so close to quitting the SD and SD chat all together it’s unbelievable. Some of you act like a bunch of highschoolers. What’s up with that. So what, a certain person fucked up once and occasionally needs a kick in the ass when drunk. So what if I protect this person, I have also stated that if you have a particular problem with the person in question let me know and I will discuss it with this person.

I don’t understand you people. You get your panties in a wad over the stupidest shit sometimes, it’s unbelievable. I am not there all the time, but I can’t for the life of me see where some of you get off kicking and banning for minor infractions.

It’s a wonder I am even posting this, I sit here and type this and think, “fuck it, it’s not worth it.” But I have invested a lot of time into the SD boards and if you don’t like me because I see past the things you apparently see and I don’t, fine. I was not placed on this Earth to please you or anyone else for that matter. I happen to see people for what they are not what they appear to be. Something that always has made me a not-so-popular person for most of my life. This brings me back to the whole school thing.

I was one of those people that was friends with everyone. I have been able to see past the front and know that underneath is a good person. Well if you can’t see that, then that’s okay but the next time someone kicks me from chat or makes me feel as though I am an ass for looking at things a different way, then FUCK YOU. I will not be a part of a group of people that feel I am a bad person for believing in someone. That is not who I am, I always see the good side and I will always be that way.

I was one of those kids growing up that got teased beyond any kid’s ability to handle it because I see past what others see. I will not tolerate being spiteful just because it’s the thing to do. If you have a problem with someone then confront them directly. But don’t you dare sit there and fuck with me. That I will not tolerate.

So, if anyone has a problem with me protecting a certain person, then fuck you, I will gladly stay away from chat since I can’t seem to “please” you…I am not there to please you, I am there to be social and have fun.

One last thing, the person I protect is a sweet, kind and gentle person from what I know. All you people are doing is kicking this person in the teeth. I could never be that mean to someone. Would you do this in real life? If so God save your soul.

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We didn’t kick you.
W the server bot did.
The netsplit happened, Gawd’s script went crazy. W kicked a few people.
Nobody kicked you.
Next time you should try coming back into the channel to figure out what happened.

I know you are mad about the way Silo is treated, but apparently he is quite nasty to people in the channel. But, that is a seperate issue. We didn’t kick you out of the channel.

pat

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Um, TC? I don’t know who you think kicked you, but there was a netsplit and we all waited for you to come back. I confess, though…I DID take the opportunity to kickban Silo. Trust me, that’s between me and him, and has nothing to do with you. But I’ve been physically threatened by him in PMs and don’t feel the same way about him as you do, sorry.

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You tell them, girl! One of the reasons I don’t do chat, is that it is too easy to be an asshole, and it seems to attract more of that type. But you’re always welcome HERE, altho there may be a flame or two, no asshole can kick you out.

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But, I cannot imagine anyone treating you in such a fashion. You contribute so much to this board, you are such a respected poster. I’ve been here a while now, mostly I lurk, but I have never seen you say anything that wasn’t well thought out and intelligent.

Don’t let the jerks get you down. And Please, Please, Please, don’t leave the board. I’m begging you. Stop going to chat if it pisses you off. Chat is altogether a kind of high school thing by it’s very nature.

I don’t pretend to know who or what you are refering to but I can’t imagine you ever saying anything that would cause being kicked off of chatting. I didn’t even know that could happen.

And remember, “Against stupidity the very Gods themselves contend in vain”.

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Basically what the other people said:

We split… the servers reconnected…
Gawd’s script detected the influx of Opped people as a takeover attempt by riding split servers in and started mass de-Opping people. W detected Gawd mass de-Opping and said “screw this” and started kicking people because it detected a takeover. W also placed a ban or two. I got back in, reset W, re-Opped the folks and all was well.

Yes, some people got kicked or banned in the process but it was all automated, not intentional. If you have issues other than that, then I apologise for saying all the above and not addressing the correct situation.

For the record, Daniel, #SD attarcts a lot fewer trolls and troublemakers than the SDMB does, but then again we’re able to take care of issues faster and attract less people than a popular website does :slight_smile:

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Silo is rude, ignorant, homophobic, and sexist. And you know what? He’s proud of it. I have very little respect for someone who says that “gays are okay, as long as they stay out of my face and don’t have parades”, or “I can’t read an entire book.” (The last is lack of respect for his intelligence, not his morals.) If I knew someone like this IRL, I would go out of my way to avoid him. Since Silo likes to come into the chat room that I enjoy frequenting, I can’t just walk away. It might be immature, but “I was there first.” By the way, I don’t think I have ever called him a rude name to his face. I’ve certainly never been terribly mean to him. But I don’t respect him, and I find your protection of him baffling and pointless. Your position isn’t making people like him more, it’s making them wonder at you. I’m having a hard time writing this, I’m not a very confrontational person, but I can’t understand why you’re trying to defend someone whose behavior and comments are basically, IMO, not really worth it. I guess you see something of yourself in him, I don’t know, I just don’t understand why you bother. He’s a big boy, he can take care of himself.

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What Kyla said, I come to chat to converse with adults (you included, Techchick) not freakin BABYSIT! Silo tends to blurt out extremely rude and offensive things, then fall back on “Oh poor me, I’m so misunderstood, no one has a sense of humor!” Well fuck that! I take great offense at some of the things he says and believe he does it to deliberately provoke. And when he comes in the room and claims “Only VV hates me” after about 20 of us spent an hour telling him how much we hated (and why) him 2 nights before, I REALLY lose patience!

P.S. Daniel…first you love me now this? Make up your mind sweetheart! XOXOX

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Okay, I wasn’t there, so I can’t give a specific opinion. But, I’ll throw a general one out. Techie, you have to know about netsplits from the amount of time you’ve spent in channel. I’m amazed you didn’t come back in and ask what was up. Scripts go bad as well. Once again, why not ask someone what was going on? (Like Joph, for example?)

Second, we do not kickban for minor stuff. I will not let people, and I will remove kickbans that are placed for minor shit. Silo (also, come on…let’s name names. It’s not like we ALL don’t know who we’re referring to) can be a jerk sometimes. I say this, and I like him! Loved him in person, and think he’s a sweetie. HOWEVER, I was fully behind Demo’s kick the other night. Demo does not kick people without a DAMN good reason. Same for 90% of the channel.

Not much else I can say, since I wasn’t there. I do think everyone would have been better served by an email from you to Joph, asking what was up, but hey, water under the bridge.

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Okay I will accept the fact that GaWd’s script fucked up, but I will not accept the fact that Silo has done much wrong.

He promised me that his interactions with people have been on the up and up.

I know that he feels horrible about things that he did in the past. I just wonder if some of you are overly sensitive with regards to the past. He has always been cordial and nice to me. Never once has he said anything that is considered inappropriate to me. Maybe to you that seems weird but even while chatting with him tonight (for about an hour or more now) I get a sense of a guy who needs love (not a fucking thing) and a friend that believes in him.

Hey, if you think he’s a dickhead, that’s fine with me I see the other side to him. He sent me a pic of his dick once, so…I can look past that and not once has given me reason to hate him or be mean to him.

I guess what I am saying is, he is a nice guy from what I know and not once since his MM name and his reincarnation as Silo has he been crude to me, even before I adopted him as my Little Internet Brother. He’s always been a nice guy, and if you have a problem with him then email me, I am on the internet about 90% of my waking time…

Hey folks I am not here to make enemies and I am not here to be a bitch but sometimes I wonder if people go about things in such a way that is wrong.

I see a different side, obviously, than you do and he is a good kid.

I will rethink my chat bitch…if in fact it was about a script gone fucked, then cool. I do still stand behind Silo and from what I can tell he is a good kid.

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I’m going to share my piece about silo in chat.

I have been a fair moderator with Silo, as far as I can remember I haven’t kicked him out just because he was there. I have given people a chance. I also warn people if they act like assholes that they’re close to getting kicked (like I did with The_Urge). Now, silo is not liked much because usually he doesnt have much to put into the conversation, and also his usual banter is about his penis, how much money he wants, or how much his parents have. I was in chat when he said “I don’t mind gays, as long as theyre not in my face” (parades, etc.) To me, what that meant was, he likes me as long as I temper myself so he feels comfortable.

Tech: As was said, you were not kicked for protecting silo, W kicked you because it detected a split/takeover (i’m saying this because some people who have replied think that we were being chat nazis). Now, I do like you, and i know you feel a kinship with silo, but i think that you arent letting him try to stand up for himself when you kick people who kick him (Which i consider abusing your channel moderator status). And, he does tend to act a little more civily around you than when he is alone when you are not there.

Oh and i’ll repeat what joph has said: our channel has far less trolls than the SDMB does. It’s open, we havent banned nicknames before they came in (some were suspect, but we have tried to give some a chance, such as The_Urge, who has been good). You should be glad we try to tolerate Silo and havent had W put a 2 week ban on him.

BTW: W is the Undernet server bot. It stays in the channel to prevent take overs (which is what it thought had happened when Gawd’s script went crazy). It basically preserves the channel.

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I was hoping when you said you were “pissed” you meant you were drunk.

I try to ignore some of the chatters who would piss me off TOTALLY if I let them (names omitted). Treat 'em like the trolls they have chosen to act like.

That said, I thought it was funny when–who was it? Opal? I don’t remember and I can’t open the thread–jumped on Silo’s ass when he showed his head over there. I hadn’t really noticed any extra-obnoxious behavior by him but you folks know him better than I.

I agree with Dan and elbows when it comes to the “high school” aspects of chat. I like talking to you and some of the others when we can, like, have a conversation, but that’s rare.

Why, Tech, so nice to hear from you. How’s it going? Did you ever get your copy of Illustrator? Having fun with it?

(Loses something in the Pit.)

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Just so you know, Techie, I never even considered Silo’s past when I made my post. I could never hold a grudge, and couldn’t care less what he did a few months ago. I base my opinion on what he said and did in #straightdope in the last couple weeks. I think Voguevixen’s description of his behavior was 100% accurate.

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Tech, I’m not trying to be a bitch here, but you can see what VV said here

Due to this I think she has a reason to dislike Silo. Maybe he isn’t as nice to everyone else as he is to you. Or maybe as VV has indicated here he is ok in open chat but an ass in PM’s. It does happen.

I have seen an improvement in his posting style, other than that I don’t have an opinion of him either way, but if he pisses me off I will deal with him on my own. It’s not my way to ask someone else to deal with my problems.

Everyone has the right to their own feelings and opinions about him, and the right to deal with him in their own way.

If I’ve pissed you off I’m sorry, because I like you.

It’s just my 2 cents.

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If all this happened off the board, why bring it up here?
Or, maybe you could state a few facts, so people whe end up reading this have a clue what you’re talking about.

Either way.

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#StraightDope is an unoffical branch of the SDMB in that it’s populated solely by SDMB users and we all have that as a common thread. Many of the meetings of SDMB people have been sparked in the #SD and we’re a fairly close group. You’ve seen how close people get in MPSIMS, well since #SD is in real time and we’re not as self conscious about what we say as it won’t be forever posted and read by hundreds, we know each other pretty damn well.

So anyway, while #SD is not part of the SDMB, things that happen on it do affect what occurs here and this is as good a place to discuss it as many as long as we’re discussing abortion rights for men, Barnes & Noble, and that Cuban kid – all also things with no relevance to the SDMB. After all, it’s not like this was posted in ATMB.

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Fine. Leave me in the dark. I just thought it was odd, is all.

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T G I F , fuck off, this has nothing to do with you dog felching dickhead.
You wanna play in The Pit? Gimme what you got fuckhead…

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You are my favorite chat person techie! I dont think silo ever said anything to me.
But anyhoo{{{{{{{{{{{{tech}}}}}}}}}}}}

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Wait a second… How did I leave you in the dark? I think that by reading the post, the original problems were fairly well defined:

(A) There is a place we chat called #StraightDope.
(B) A problem arose on #SD where some people were accidentally kicked out or banned.
© A user on #SD has been banned (for the moment) due to issues with other users on the channel.
(D) Techchick brought issues (B) and © up on this board because of the reasons I stated in my above post.

You say you’re in the dark – how strong of a flashlight do you need?