I am soooo fucking pissed right now!!!!!!

The BBQ Pit
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:: blinks ::

That seems a little harsh for a newbie who seems to be a pretty decent person. TGIF, Silo is a poster who has earned the dislike of many other posters, especially in the #straightdope channel, where he tends to behave like an idiot. Techichick has decided to defend him for some reason. She’s mad at the rest of us for picking on him; the rest of us kind of think he deserves it.

#straightdope is not officially connected to this MB, but it is where a lot of Dopers go to hang and chat. It’s no biggie. I cordially invite you to come for a visit. It’s on IRC Undernet, or you can see it through the java applet on Opal’s page. Fathom seems to be down at the moment, but the link (I think it’s called “IRC chat”) can be found at http://www.fathom.org/teemingmillions.

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FWIW, Silo is over on the FFF and for a few people that remember him as MM he is welcomed with open arms.

I will state, if you have a problem with him, then fucking get a hold of me I will talk to him about behavior you feel is inappropriate. He is my little brother now, okay? Got it?

Doob, you know I love you…

Hey Doob, if I am in the room and anyone has a problem with what he says, I have requested people talk to me about it before they kick or ban him. He knows I care for him, he knows that I will be honest with him damnit.

So if any of you have a problem with something he says, then damnit email me, PM or IM me and I will talk to him about it…but don’t just ban him for his thinking or beliefs.

Doob, if he has a problem with you being gay or anyone else for that matter, that’s not your problem. He may happen to find that gays or any other class of people don’t appeal to him. I don’t fault people for that, I have been involved in traditionally male dominated jobs since I got out of high school. I know all the jokes, I am from a very conservative family and as a woman I am looked down upon because of the roles I have in life. I am more a man than many men I know…but I have never let a single person’s comment bring me to my knees. You can’t look at a comment made by Silo and let that affect you. I even remember the conversation you are talking about. If he finds the act of making love between two men weird, okay, but remember there are a lot of people out there that find it an atrocious thing. I know as I live in a very conservative place.

Vogie, please I can’t believe that he threatened you. I have to believe you took something and read into it something else. He swears to me that he didn’t threaten you, I don’t discount your recollection nor do I discount his recollection…I just wonder if something may have said that was taken in the wrong light? Yes he is my friend and I can’t believe that he would intentionally do something to hurt you or make you feel like you should be on guard.

I am TOTALLY serious, if you have something you need to discuss about Silo then email me, IM me or ICQ me when I get it back up and running.

He is a good kid from what I know. He has always been nice and kind to me damnit…if he has been rude to you people then maybe you need to be kind to get kind in return.

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Well, since my stupid script started this bullshit I guess I should ring in…

I’m sorry about the banning TC, it was 100% inadvertant. Besides, you know I’m not that fucking childish. I’ve tried keeping this bullshit off of the MB, but you and Silo took it a step further.

Silo decided he needed to take some anger out on me whilst in MPSIMS this afternoon. He was spouting bullshit non-information out his ass and I corrected him. He got his feelings hurt and hijacked the OP so he could try to match wits. IMO, it was BS. I asked him to stop it and either chat it out with me, or take it to the pit.

I came to you because I knew he was your puppy. I also took the time to PM him while in chat, but he ignored it for the longest time. I finally told him the same thing I’m gonna ask you. Since chat is totally seperate from the MB, can you try to keep this crap to chat?

There’s enough drama on the board without this added crap, and I’m unsure of your purpose in this thread.

Please understand that you are important to me and other people on the board and in chat. I’ve never said word one that was bad about you, but this is over the top.

Silo isn’t worth this kind of trouble. He’s just about worthless, he’s immature, arrogant, unintelligent Etc. He’s the one kicking himself in the teeth by attempting to interface with a group of people who hold him in contempt for his crappy attitude and self-serving actions.

Sorry TC.

-Sam

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I’m sorry Techie, I love you girl, but Silo don’t need a net-mommy. It’s not your job to interface with his detractors. It’s not your job to protect him from shooting his mouth off and getting dealt with. It’s not our job to observe these boundaries.

Silo is a big kid(and I mean kid). He can defend himself. If he needs a mommy(or big sister, whatever), he needs one sitting next to his computer in Va, not you in colorado.

He is inappropriate until you waltz in on the scene, and then he gets his cockles up that he’s got protection. Then you leave, and it starts up again.

As far as Vogie goes, Silo’s fav. line is “they misunderstood me”, so it’s not terribly strange that he’d tell you that. He’s a liar, and you’re enabling his behavior. Cut it out.

-Sam

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Why should they spread their business to you? Why should you be in their business to begin with? Many do talk with him. If he has a problem with me, i’ll PM him, or like in chat find what he says amusing and fuck with him. My view is, if I have a problem with him, i’m going to confront him about it and not involve someone else who doesnt need to be involved in the first place.

It damn well is my problem if he says something like that. Like i said, i will not temper myself. He can be what he wants to be, it doesnt mean I have to tolerate him if he acts like an asshole. I really dont care if he dislikes gay people or not, but he damn well isnt going to make me accomodate him and censor myself, just so i’m not “in his face”. Also i never said he had to like the fact that i’m gay, i’m saying he’s not going to keep me from being who I am in chat. Please tech, dont put words into my posts. (note i’m not saying he has told me i cant be myself, but what he said hinted he is uncomfortable with it. I’m just saying for your and his future reference i will not censor myself.

Yes tech, key words, from what you know.

Yes, he’s nice and kind to you. That doesnt mean he treats others the same way. It also doesnt mean people have to put up with bull shit from him, or anyone for that matter.

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Ok, Tech, believe what you want. If a half dozen people tell you Silo has been an ass and you still deny it then I don’t know what to tell you. I can deal with you being mad at me personally but this pooh-poohing of my personal experince and feelings I cannot let slide. I first kicked Silo about a month ago; he came back in the room and started spouting off again and Omni kickbanned him. The result was the whiney, sniveling “Vogue/Omni” thread in which he claimed we were out to get him for no reason. Assorted people in chat agreed he was being an ass and posted to that effect. Omni was not able to post the log due to the private nature of the discussion. I gladly would’ve withstood any embarassment to further my case but I can understand the need for privacy on the part of other posters/chatters. For the next few weeks I warily kept my eye on him, but never bothered to take offense until Thursday when he decided to make fun of SeaDiver’s screen name, then changed his alias to “MuffDiver” after assorted lewd remarks, I decided that was enough. I kicked him and he came back into the room as “Sigh.” After stewing silently he PMed me with “I’m going to get you for that.” Now correct me if I’m wrong, but that sounds like a threat to me. It doesn’t matter how he meant it, it would stand up as a threat in any US court. He then went on to say “You are the only one who hates me, give me names of someone else.” This is of course a preposterous request so I ignored it. After about a minute of silence he said “I knew it, you’re full of shit.” at which point I posted his request into the main chatroom and he was treated to about a half hour of criticsim as to WHY he was so hated and what he could do to change it, after which he logged off, assuming that was the end of that. When I entered chat tonight I meet with Silo going “oh no, Vogue is here.” (This is after I’d been there for 20 minutes, btw, which goes to show how slow he is.) Then after a few minutes he proclaims “Vogue hates me. She’s the only one, I don’t know why!” Oh lord. It’s as if Thursday never happened and he spaced out the whole thing. (Highly likely.) I told him flat out “You suck ass and everyone hates you.” which was of course met with laughter. Then the netsplit happened. Surgo (I think, I may be wrong, maybe Pricciar), Aenea and I were split into a separate room, then when we came back into the main room, SeaDiver informed me that Silo had been bragging about Aenea flirting with him. I think that we all know from previous threads that this is 100% impossible and he was talking out his ass. I passed this on to Aenea and she kicked him. He came back on as “Mikee” and after sitting there for like a half hour and razzing Aenea in PM I finally kickbanned him.

NOW! We all know the rules of order for the straightdope messageboard. And although the chatroom is completely non-affiliated, I’d like to think the same rules stand. #1, don’t be a jerk. #2, no sock puppets. I’ve already stated that he’s logged in under several differing names. (I keep waiting for “Sighleaux” but that would be far too witty.)

In a nutshell, I don’t have time for this fucking bullshit!!! I’m sorry you are clinically depressed but lemme tell you, drinking your weight in beer every night in the chat room is NOT HELPING THAT! Especially since you’re on antidepressants. Now, feel free to hate me all you want for that since it’s more than fair. But I swear on my mother’s grave (when she dies) that if you stick up for fucking Silo ONE MORE TIME, I’ll fucking…oh never mind. I don’t want to be threatenting like your little buddy Mikey.

In conclusion (hahahahaha) CHILL OUT MAMA!

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GaWd,

I read the thread in question and honestly (yes I am being totally non-biased) I think what you may taken that more personally than it was meant to be.

I have been involved in message boards dealing with depression and medications, specifically herbal alternatives, and honestly I didn’t see the problem with what he was saying. I often have gotten into a MB conversation over the same damn things and it’s always a touchy subject. And yes I agree with you both.

Hey if you all hate me because I stick up for Silo, then that’s fine, I can’t do a damn thing about that. Like I said I live for me, not for some approval from a message board.

I can deal with out this message board or the chat room, even if it breaks my heart to leave. I have made many a friends and love each and everyone of you. I can’t, however sit back and be blasted for believing in someone and knowing that he’s got a good heart and with some pushing he can be a great poster here, it has me feel torn, and sad.

I still have my Colorado Room on AOL were I am accepted and not judged for believing in people. So if that’s where I must go in my internet life then I will go back. They still love and care about me, as I found out tonight. They have no judgements as to who and who is not welcome…they see faults, accept them and go on. If a person is a dick, we deal with it and go on…but not once have I seen my AOL friends completely shut someone out like some of you have.

If anything, I have seen the monster of ignorance come through here. You have to remember I love you all, but I am disillusioned by the discord and if you think I will sit back and not defend someone that has always been kind and considerate then you are fooling yourselves.

If I have to leave over this whole thing I will, I will do it knowing that I tried my best to a friend to all and looked past the faults.

I am not a bitch, I am not a person that hates for the sake of hating. I am a soft hearted person that pretty much loves all that I come across. If you are a dickhead, I don’t care, if you are bitch I don’t care. I, sadly in light of all of this, see past things that no one sees. I, sadly am a person that has a heart and even the worst offender in life will get sympathy from me. Silo is hardly the worst of the worst from what I know.

So what, I am spoiled fucking rich kid, kay? Got it? I could probably blow him away with my own wealth. I could blow him away with my own sexual ability. But that’s not who I am, I protect him because I see what he is and can be. So if I am a fucked person for it, then fine, I am a fucked up person.

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So if a person is a dick, we have to be their best friend and like them and want to hang out with them? Wow, you’re WAY nicer than me! (And I’m pretty nice.) Techie, I’m sorry you’re so disillusioned with us all, cause I know at least I like you and would miss your presense on the board and in #straightdope. But I don’t understand why you’re so upset with us for not liking someone who has presented himself in such a way to be completely unlikeable!

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TC,

Silo admitted to me that he was bringing some pre-conceived attitude into that thread. It’s a non-issue. He was spouting off, I corrected him, no controversy.
Not a single thing I corrected him on isn’t proveable, it’s fact.

Now as to you leaving–I’ve voiced my opinions on that many a time, and if you truly feel Silo is worth it, then so be it.

You will be missed. You aren’t hated, you certainly still have a place in my heart, and I don’t think this is as personal with you as it is with Silo.

-Sam

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By “over there” do you mean the 3FMB? I welcomeed him when he registered, I didn’t “jump on [his] ass”. Until/unless he causes trouble over there he is welcome to stay.

Btw, the network that serves our server (CAIS) is having trouble tonight with its dns servers, that is why access to the board is spotty at best. It should be fixed very soon. sigh

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It’s obvious that from what I have read tonight that I am not welcome any longer.

That’s cool, I will go about my merry way and do my own thing.

For those of you that still have a shred of like for me, I am over on the FFF. As a moderator over there and the fact I love my “job” there I will be over there.

Well, farewell my friends…

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I’m sorry Techie, I believe we’ve all said the opposite of that.

We’ll miss you. :frowning:

-Sam

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Tech, I don’t remember anyone saying you’re not welcome. Granted, Silo isn’t welcome if he can’t act like a normal human being, but you and he are two different people. I don’t know anyone who has an issue with you except for puzzlement as to why you keep defending someone who has shown to be a problem again and again. If you choose to leave, I’ll miss you and I’m certain others will as well, but I don’t see where one has to affect the other where you and Silo are concerned.

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Wake up, dear. We want Silo to leave, not you…however you seem to be a package deal, so “bye.”

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The #straightdope chat room is an extension of the Teeming Millions Homepage, which is itself an unofficially affiliated site of the SD. There is a page of chat rules but I don’t have the url handy at the moment because the server’s network is down :::grrr:::

If people agree that no sock puppets is a reasonable rule, I can add it… however most of us change our names a lot for fun and I hope people wouldn’t see that as breaking that rule.

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Kyla, if you had been paying attention, I have never asked for anyone to be his best friend…read it here:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=28487

All I am asking is for people to lighten up on him. God I feel like I am hitting my head against a concrete wall. He is a kind kid and if you don’t help him along the…fuck it, my head is so hitting that concrete wall that I can’t make anyone see past their own prejudices.

Hey, I have done my best to contribute in the best way I know with regards to the SDMB, but apparently my words aren’t worth shit. Hey that’s cool, I will deal with it, I sit back and know what SingleDad feels. When you have an opinion on the SD and it’s not a popular thing you become one that is looked down upon.

It’s not about squashing ignorance for many of you, it’s about who is right. Well my friends, no one is right, we all are so fucking wrong it’s unbelievable. If we really had the answers, we all should be happy, strong and all of us would be smart and there would be no questions as to what life is about.

Well I am sorry I fail your test for believing in someone.

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We’ve all presented an overwhelming amount of words as to your importance as a poster/chatter.

So, in a word, Climb down off the cross, we need the wood for something else

I’m sorry you feel the need to try and make us like the little worm, but it’s obvious to me that he’s done way too much for that to happen. No need to slam your head against the wall, cause the guy’s not worth it to us.

Once again, You’ll be very missed.

-Sam

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quote:

Wake up, dear. We want Silo to leave, not you…however you seem to be a package deal, so “bye.”

Hey Vogie, if that’s how you feel then fine, I am all for it. I got bigger fish to fry and Silo is not the problem it’s you in this case.

If you are so flipant about me and my presence in this place, FUCK IT, it’s not worth my time.

I liked you but now I wonder why, you blatently state that you would rather see me leave than be friends with you and Mike…if that’s how you feel then good bye to you. I have friends that care for me and want me around regardless of who I hang out with…I will not get rid of Mike as a friend because you choose to.

This fucking sucks…I try to stick up for a person and I am cast out for it. < shaking head > this is so god damned typical.

I have NEVER once cast a stone on a friend I thought was loony because of her/his friendship with someone Vogie, you have taken the cake. I have friends who are friends with those I don’t want to associate with but not fucking once in my life have I done what you have done.

Hey I asked and I questioned about what Silo said to you, you didn’t give me an explanation. Yet you cast a stone at me…

Well anyone else wanna cast me out because I am willing to contend with it.

Go for it. I have NOTHING to loose, got it?
To add to this thread since I fucked up on the placement of it, well shit on a brick, I never knew that being one’s self could mean that I would be cast out of those things that mean so much to me. Why the fuck am I still here? I love the SD but it’s apparent I am not wanted here anymore.

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Please know that Silo will be responding to this thread even though I have asked him to stay out of it as this is my battle…but in the spirit of the fact it’s about him, he will.

I am out of here for now…this is a fucked up deal I tell you. I will be checking in on this thread and responding as I see fit so if I offend, I bow before you and say “God will kick my ass” and my face has kissed you asses as well. K? Got it?

I am so God-damned disgusted right now…

If I offended, my lips are on your fucking ass, K? If you don’t get it then my ass is yours to kiss, K? And I have a big ass to kiss, so please be prepared.

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Okay, I know I have absolutely no right or authority to say anything about anything or anyone at this point, but I’m going to throw in my lousy ha’penny’s worth anyhow.

First off…I happened to be in the channel when the servers went completely bugfuck. People were being thrown out, getting up to 4+ minutes of lag, and other assorted goodies. Folks were server-jumping like mad, trying to find a stable connection that would give them less than 2 minutes of lag. I don’t know which planet intersected which other planet’s orbit, but something was tres screwy. I stayed stable through the whole thing (because I’m so cool) until right at the end when apparently my until-then-unmolested server decided to give me a piece of the action and knocked me off. So I can confirm that mass bannings weren’t happening. I know everyone else already HAS, but like I said…

Second…I can’t believe this crap still happens. I can see every point of view, believe it or not; I’ve been online in one form or another for a long time, and I’ve been both the molested, the molestee, and the defender.
I have also enjoyed the living hell out of techchick’s posts the entire (short) time I’ve been here. I have no desire to see ANYONE leave a message board OR chat area just because two people who are not them have difficulties with each other.

I have a “sink or swim” mentality when it comes to computer-assisted communication. If I say something that offends someone and I didn’t mean to, I will do everything in my power to explain myself. “Oh, man, that’s not what I meant AT ALL…here’s what I actually meant. Ya dig?” That usually works.

When A says something that offends B, and B lets A know he’s pissed (I’m just using “he” throughout for the sake of simplicity), if A didn’t MEAN to piss off B, A will explain himself. If A did mean to piss off B, A will keep it up in the same tone. If, in the middle of this, C jumps in to defend A, no one is helped. A never buys a clue and realizes that he was offended, B stays pissed but now adds C to his list, and C has a new antagonist. It just makes no sense.

I’m of the opinion that if A and B have problems with each other, they should work them out for themselves. Since C cannot know what either A or B actually said…both sides, the whole conversation…C sets himself up to have vitriol spewed at him against which he cannot possibly defend, because he was not a part of the initial disagreement. Does this make any sense?

Y’all can tell me to shut up ANY old time. I’m pretty used to it.