From Yahoo, you can see the list of the top 8 candidates and their inclination. IMHO, any candidate who either has no position on pardoning Mister Four Indictments or is inclined to pardon him proves the republican party does not care even a whit about law and order.
These guys are certifiable.
They are trying to stay on Trump’s good side while running against him. Have they not been paying attention?
If you’re going to go after Trump, you gotta go full force.
Christy is the only one that understands this apparently.
That ship sailed. When the few Republicans who initially criticized Trump for his actions (and/or lack of them) on 1/6 later backpedaled and covered for him, that was when they showed they don’t care about law and order.
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It’s clear that of the two parties, it is the Democrats who care more about obeying the law, keeping order, and making the country safer. The Republicans love chaos and crime because it’s a very convenient way to get what they want.
Interesting that they mostly say they are leaning, not what they would do.
The Ford precedent (pardon followed by GOP defeat) means there is zero chance of Trump being pardoned by anyone other then himself.
Also, if Trump can’t even get the nomination, his teflon would have already been destroyed,
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And Asa Hutchinson, who has apparently scraped into the first debate by the skin of his teeth.
I ought to issue warnings to all of you that hijacked this thread into a border debate.
I won’t but you all owe @Monty an apology for wrecking his thread.
Ridiculous, all of you who participated in it.
Special calling out of @The_Other_Waldo_Pepper & @Czarcasm though. This was not what the OP was about.
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to turn this into a hijack. 
I think Ramaswamy’s pledge to pardon Trump on day one is hilarious, since he’s so, so unlikely to be elected.
I humbly apologize.
I particularly like Pence’s answer to the question about a man who had a crown chanting “hang Mike Pence” while rioting through Congress:
Pence said, “and I think any pardon that you could conduct would only be appropriate to consider after somebody has been found guilty. And I don’t know why some of my competitors in the Republican primary assume the president’s going to be found guilty.” Pence has also indicated he would “clean house” in the Justice Department if elected.
So, his plan is the same as TFGs: delusionally believe TFG will be found not guilty, then weaponize the Justice Department to get even.
As I said in a previous post, he and others are walking a fine line between taking Trump’s place if he he is forced out of the race, and sucking up to him for the VP position if he isn’t. I think that particular candidate is throwing most of his eggs in the latter basket.
Likewise.
Do we know which candidates openly opposed Trump because of the insurrection, and which didn’t?
Wow. Start a thread at breakfast, then off to shopping and the world goes…well, the world does what it does sometimes.
I appreciate the apologies posted in this thread for the highjack and gladly accept them and also those to be proffered here in the future if any more are forthcoming.
I just scanned the spun-off thread (which I thought was going to be sent to the cornfield, but I hope it won’t) and, ISTM, that the highjack started an interesting* discussion. So, I guess all’s well that ends well.
The only way we can know that is if those who voted to impeach him run for office. Any other Qubliban candidate will happily breathe lie about it until Doomsday. Which way they lie about it will depend on the prevailing political winds in their inane base.
I’ve heard it suggested that Pence is in it for his “dignity.” Which is….great, I guess?
That’s kind of a lost cause isn’t it?
I suspect this is just another campaign promise not intended to be kept, just to attract attention and rile up the deplorables, with the added, risk-free (for now) dopamine hit of owning the libs. Come general election time whomever the R candidate is will be furiously backpedaling this so as not to chase away the majority of those owned libs. They know they need to go hard right for the primary but tack center in the general - or at least that’s the way it used to work.