I’m not an anti-Semite. Ok?
There’s a Polish Jewish conflict. About compensation for losses during WW2. And other issues.
I’m sick of how Anti-Polonism exists in an insidious way.
But we must be tolerant.
Yes. I’m plain bad at this.
The jury is still out on that one, mkra. Even if you are, I don’t think you’re malicious, but if so you’d still be biased.
The bitter, bitter truth is that there will NEVER be justice or anything like adequate compensation for any injured party of WWII. You can’t restore the dead. You can’t unburn cities. You can’t untorture people. You can’t roll back the clock and make it didn’t happen (sorry if that’s difficult to parse, I’m aware that English is not your first language)
Much better than squabbling about conflict is for everyone to practice “debt forgiveness” on this one and pledge to do better going forward. But I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for it.
Look, EVERY group is sick and tired of anti[whatever they are]. You nailed it on the last sentence, though - we must be tolerant. Or there is no future for anyone. That doesn’t mean we have to like everyone, or agree with them, or like their culture. It does mean that you have to live and let live.
No, it’s not ok. Stop posting anti-Semitic drivel and I’ll take you more seriously. But for now, if it walks like a duck…
A good way to start would be to retract the ridiculous stuff you wrote about Jews a few posts back. Let’s start there, OK?
It was a rant. B B Q pit? Yes.
I retract it entirely.
I’m part Jewish.
Of course you can rant in the Pit. And those who read said ranting will conclude what they conclude about the ranter based on the content of the rant. Yes.
In your case posters are divided as to what they think. Worry about your psychiatric health may trump the reaction to the content.
You are part Jewish? And? So sure you might have been targeted by the Nazis for having some Jewish ancestors just as your GF was targeted for being a Polish intellectual and elite. But many anti-Semites have some Jewish ancestry …so not sure what you think your claim of some drops of Jewish blood is supposed to convince people of.
Check with your psychiatrist please.
I was told when I was young to never hurt the Jewish people.
My father insisted on that.
So, I would not dream to gratuitously hurt anybody’s feelings .
As I said it was a rant based on my observations of the Hassidic Jews in my neighborhood.
I am very proud of my Jewish ancestry though I haven’t got many Jewish acquaintances.
I remember my father’s Jewish friends as especially nice persons.
They would probably laugh at me and my observations.
Come on. Polish Jokes, anyone?
I used to feel extreme pain at being called a Polaque. At Polish Jokes in books that came out regularly. This is when I was a boy.
A little tension between Poles and Jews is like tension between the Poles and the Irish.
Way back.
Turf wars.
It’s ongoing in Montreal Quebec.
Would you say the Quebecois are anti-Semitic because they evicted some rowdy Hassids a couple weeks ago.
Anyway. Sorry.
Hassidim are not the whole of Jews, in fact, they’re minority among Jews. Granted, they’re easy to spot and can be obnoxious, but they are not what I’d call a “typical” Jew.
If your beef is with Hassidim then say Hassidim - don’t say “Jews” when you’re only referring to a sub-set of them.
Hassidim, Jews, subset. It’s getting complicated.
In Poland, they say Żydzi with no distinction.
I understand there are differences.
They are quite “obnoxious” as you say sometimes. Such as in the apartment building on the corner. I don’t lose any sleep over them.
On the whole, I find them fascinating. I am saying on the whole. As a specific group among the minorities.
I’m not generalizing. My father forbade generalizing.
He liked specifics.
But I’m unable regretfully to name a single rabbi and subset of the Hassidim.
When I was psychotic, I thought they were magicians.
Yes, generalizing is always bad.
Thanks for all the comments.
I love the Jewish people. I’m not anti Jewish, not an anti-Semite.
I’d be suicidal because both sets of great-great-grandparents in my father’s lineage were Jewish.
It is true that I once almost jumped off the top of a building but it was for a different reason. If reason there might be.
I like how the Hassidim appear on the Sabbath.
My parents had very nice Jewish friends.
It is true that I don’t know any Jews myself.
Except my notary who’s Jewish.
I’m personally shocked by young women that look 18 or even 16 who trail 4 or more kids though.
Albert and his wife Adel Kazimera converted to Catholicism in 1888. They were neophytes.
I’m sure that the copyrights to his books remained in the family
But there are the sweeping wartime losses.
I’ve learned that the copyrights are ancient and expired.
The books are public domain.
It is libraries that ask specialized publishers to reprint them to save them from oblivion.
Publishers like FORGOTTEN BOOKS in the UK. Kessinger and Leopold in the USA.
Poland is making progress on remembering the Polish victims of Nazi genocide.
I never use the word the Holocaust or even the holocaust to describe it.
There were 4 million Polish victims and 3 million Polish Jews died mainly in Auschwitz .
Don’t catch psychosis. I know it isn’t contagious.
But it’s one of the worst life-threatening diseases.
Now I’d like this thread closed.
Thank you.
The war wiped out a lot of people. You are not one of them. Your parents did not lose everything, they survived. They still had life. I had neighbors who somehow survived, despite starvation torture and all sorts of horrors. They brought their stories with them. Their friends and relatives, parents and children, were murdered by Nazis. Their money and land (if they had any) was taken away. These survivors bore the number tattoos of the Nazi camps.
So how were YOU affected again??? You weren’t. They were, you weren’t.
Take your meds and start living in the today.
You’ve already had two threads closed because you didn’t like where they went. At some point you need to own the stuff you post. Stop opening threads, especially in the Pit, if you don’t want to hear criticism.
I rather like the idea of ownership.
I don’t own much.
I think I’ll just own it. I mean the thread.
Thank you.
CAN anyone have a clue as to how come these women are so prolific?
How DOES a woman manage to have three girls ages 5 to 7 or 8 PLUS a baby boy in a pram? At the age of 16 or 18?
I like such young mothers on buses.
They are so quaint.
But it’s a mild rant on my part.
While your 16 to 18 is just wrong, many ultra-Orthodox women are married by 18 to 19 and start having kids pretty much right away. Within America anyway the more mainstream secular Jewish population average less than two kids in a family while Orthodox families average over 4. It is a pretty common pattern for those whose specific strict religious tradition is based on a model from a point in the past … for comparison, Mormon families average just under 4 and the Amish average more like 6 to 8 kids in a family. Independently, poverty and lack of female education are associated with large family size as well.
Maybe what you are seeing is the oldest girl in the family, or a cousin, taking care of the younger kids, with the mother actually being in her mid to late thirties.
I’d like to believe you.
There’s nothing to not support your observations.
But I am sick with the idea those could be young mothers. Ok to nannies.
The aura of a hassidic neighborhood is all kinds of strange goings-on exist.
Like not sending kids to secular school. Educating them at home. And sometimes provoking the anger of the government over abuses.
A Jewish couple in Montreal sued the community for not teaching them English. Or math.
Just the regular news about the Hassidim.
It causes me to think that those women are real young mothers. I can’t shake off the image of them.
I can make the difference with nannies. Such as
small girls taking tiny babies on walks. Something you’d never see from non Jewish people.
Anyway.
May G-d bless them all.
End of rant.
You see a woman who is 16-18 years old on the bus with an eight-year-old child and think this is a mother and child? In your mind, at what age do women get pregnant?
I didn’t say 16 with an eight year old child.
I realize that women bear children much later.
Husbands too.
They LOOKED 16 to me. Ok they were nannies. 18 year olds. With three children and a young baby.
It’s all quite crazy, really. My perception was misleading me.
When I got sick years ago, I thought that Hassidim possessed super powers.
The impression that they have a lot of power lingers on.
Sometimes there’s these clashes with Christian society, for instance, when a rabbi mistreated his flock.
So, I get suspicious easily. Young wives not even 18 are part of my delirious suspicion.
People can get pregnant at 14, you know.
Anyway, this community is fascinating.
Thanks for all your remarks.
You didn’t? Sure sounds like that’s what you said.