I admit, I would like to know why pkbites would like to take a gun to NYC. But if he does not wish to share his reasoning, I understand. We do not have to share all our lives with the message board.
I’m uncertain why the worries of a concern troll should be meaningful to me.
Regardless, what in the world makes you think that you or your ilk would ever be my friend?
Instead of meeting at the Museum of Science and Industry, could you please meet at the Field Museum instead? Your confrontation would be so much more epic with a woolly mammoth in the background.
He’s a police officer. He is allowed to carry anywhere in the U.S. though there are some restrictions. Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act.
Most agencies require or encourage officers to carry at all times.
What I’m not clear on is if he retains police powers when out of his home state.
No sorry, I’ve already been there recently. (Recently being about three years ago. I haven’t been to the Museum of Science and Industry for something like 40 years.)
I am, frankly, looking forward to he and I prowling around the U-Boat armed with Lugers, that when you fire them, a banner comes out saying, “You suck!”
I’m still a cop. After I retired I took a position with another agency part-time. Lots of retired officers around here do that to supplement their pension. The jobs the same, the authority is the same, we’re just limited to work 1250 hours per year, that’s all. (Oh, and no insurance benefits either. But we don’t need them because we get them from the department we retired from).
Unless I’m asleep or having an adult beverage I always carry. Most cops I know are the same way. Self protection. Why on Earth do you think so many people in this country get CCW permits in areas that issue them? Was this really such a big mystery to some of you?
I can’t speak for anyone else, but to me it is not a mystery that you carry within your jurisdiction, nor is it a mystery that you are curious about the laws that govern carrying without your jurisdiction.
It’s R. P. McMurphy. As in Randle Patrick McMurphy, the protagonist of the Ken Kesey novel and the motion picture “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. The fictional R. P. McMurphy ended up with a lobotomy. The Straight Dope member posts as if he were lobotomized.
Thank you, runner pat, for the answer to my question.
The “original question” is not why he’s wanting to carry. The real question is the one pkbites asked in the OP: what happens to people who legitimately concealed-carry in NYC. Does that clear it up?
I do think by and large GQ is the best forum on these boards because of the moderation, generally when leftist dopers can’t withhold their constant idiotic pot shots at anything they dislike the GQ mods typically put a stop to it, and I like that.
What really surprised me in that thread is even in recent posts you can tell several of the people replying “oh you can’t carry in NYC it’s illegal, you’ll go to prison just like that NFL player” have not read the OP and are not aware that there is a Federal law the preempts such local regulations for LEOs or retired LEOs.
LHOD, sorry, I didn’t think you were referring to the GQ OP question because it seems to have been answered.
This.
In the absence of an interstate mutual aid agreement (which are usually limited to border areas), a request from a state governor under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact (a federally authorized instate disaster relief agreement), or a “hot pursuit” situation, no (generally).
For the most part, a peace officer has the same law enforcement privileges as a private citizen when outside his state.
Wait, is the “sociopath” confrontation still in the planning stage?
If so, please post the date, time, place.
I’m ashamed to admit that I’m morbidly curious when it comes to watching the slow kids fight in the sandlot after school lets out.
They need to set up a webcam and stream it to us.
Thank you, I knew it was like this previously and was thinking it might have been changed as part of the increased security after 9/11.
I agree with Frank, and I understand and respect your right and desire to carry as a Law Enforcement Officer.
I guess a better way to phrase the question is: At what point, personally, would you decide it’s just not worth traveling with your gun? Or is there such a point at all?
In other words, you seem to realize that you may be in for some hassle if you decide you want to be packing in NYC. So is the option of “Oh well, I suppose I can do without the Glock for a few days and just enjoy my vacation” even on the table? Why or why not? I think it’s a legitimate question that can be answered without anybody calling anybody a sociopath.
Man, there was a lot of reflexive anti-gun stupidity in that thread.
If I were going to England where I knew I didn’t have a legal leg to stand on and a law suite for being arrested wouldn’t be to my benefit.
Wheelz, why are you so interested in pkbites’s desire to carry a gun? He wants to carry a gun–why isn’t that enough for you?