Around here, many of the gyms and pools are doing appointments. So no, they aren’t sharing lanes. There’s less people allowed in at a time. That’s basically the answer to all your objections. A proper opening plan includes some social distancing in open venues. You wear a mask when you’re not at your socially distanced spot in the venue.
Masks are obviously not vital to get numbers down despite the American propaganda war to the contrary. Most of Europe past their peak before the world changed its mind on them. But they probably help some and every little bit helps to lower the transmission rate.
Also, the mask mandate in many states did not align with the original shutdown. Here in North Carolina, I remember going to grocery stores when the stay-at-home order was first put in place and seeing very few people wearing masks. (It also took my workplace months to decide that face coverings should be worn in common areas, and that still isn’t being enforced.)
That may be the worst argument against wearing seatbelts I’ve ever seen. ‘Car accidents never ever happen to people who are good drivers, thus X.’
Refusing to wear a mask is reckless endangerment if there’s any chance at all you’ve got this pandemic. And if you’ve spent any time at all in the presence of humans in the past two weeks, there’s a chance you’ve got this pandemic.
Just like the old board, you can edit for a few minutes after posting, then you can’t any more.
And I’m with the crowd on this one. Masking is for protecting others more than it is for protecting yourself – although it does help with that as well. That you are refusing to put up with the inconvenience/discomfort of doing that for your fellow man makes me think less of you.
The point is to wear a mask whenever you are around other people, whether they are “required” or not. Because some government officials have fought requiring them where they should be
required.
What’s insulting is your denial that someone refusing to wear a mask can lead to someone else’s death.
And yet where mask wearing is compliant, infection and death rates are down. Where compliance is down, infections and deaths are up.
What about the person you spread it to? Can you ensure they remain asymptomatic? Can you ensure they won’t die?
I’m sorry to hear that, but what does that have to do with this conversation? “People die from cancer all the time, so why can’t I dink and drive?”
Which people are claiming this here? We are not Twitter.
You said it was hyper paranoia. But people are spreading the disease by not wearing masks, and lots of people are dying from it. That’s not paranoia, that’s fact.
I solve that problem by not eating in restaurants, not working out in gyms, and not going swimming. Because I’m smarter than the Republican officials who think opening everything up is safe.
That’s fine with me. Not wearing your seatbelt only puts you at risk.
Spreading was on the uptick. Response to mitigation is a lag effect, it takes time to kick in.
Mandatory masks in grocery stores was not widespread, and not enforced.
Governors raced to reopen before the spread was contained. They violated the coronavirus panel guidelines and reopened as fast as possible.
Places like New York were stricter on masks and closed longer, and they got their numbers down.
Yes, there is a bit of mask theater, but it’s not from the doctors, it’s from the politicians.
It reminds me of the Milgram Experiment. If only people could instantly see the pain and distress they are causing as they did in Milgram with the shocks. Then at least some of them would back down and wear a mask.
But as Milgram shows us, some would still continue to cause obvious harm to others if social pressure was exerted on them.
They may be preventable, but not necessarily by you.
Millions of people drive while drowsy or drunk or high. They could prevent accidents by not doing those things, but you have no say in the matter. You also have no control over other drivers’ road rage, dementia, seizure, confusion, or distractions. They shouldn’t be on the road, but they are. Nor will they always give you time to react.
I’ve been rear-ended while stopped 3 times. Once at a stoplight, once stopped for pedestrians in a crosswalk (who’d be dead now had I not been there), and once in stopped freeway traffic. 95% of accidents are preventable, but not necessarily by you.
Oops, sorry, 🤦TMO is Transportation and Movement Office/Officer.
They set the rules (within a defined framework) for the base they work at and coordinate Permant Change of Station moves. There will often be a TMO that will actually go to a home and physically check on a move at least once (usually during packing phase in my experience). I’m not sure if it is entirely civilian staffed or not, but I’ve never seen a TMO that was a current military member, even though I beleive they are a division of the TMO that handles the movement of military units to and from various parts of the world.
Nope. I brought up the edit screen again right after Edit 1, waited until fifteen minutes passed, and tried another edit. The software refused to post it, stating too much time had elapsed. Refreshing the page made the edit icon disappear.
The vaunting irony of many people wanting to gather and focus their energies in the cause of suicide prevention and in doing so create a situation where many could die is not lost on me.
The balls involved in walking up to someone taking precautions and trying to use peer pressure to make them STOP taking precautions? Please. That’s up there with, " Real men don’t use rubbers. "
Every single accommodation to the truth of using a good mask is in response to economics. And to personal comfort. Not to infection rates or deaths or anything else.
The lunacy involved in wearing a mask while waiting in line to buy a beer and then yanking it down so you can enjoy it- shoulder to shoulder with strangers on the sidewalk - is numbing. This isn’t anecdotal. It happens every single night around the corner from me. It’s happening as I type this. In New York City. In Astoria. On one of the main avenues chock-a-block filled with bars. Many of whom serve out their windows in plastic cups.
Except that this isn’t theater. And while numbers are down, people are still dying of this.
Wait till October 15th when all hell has broken loose again…
