I know you didn’t mean it that way, but…
ewwww.
I’m not sure I understand this statement. I’m not picking a fight, I’d just like clarification please. You lost respect for Henry Rollins because he is not gay? Or because you think he is? And I don’t get the hypocrite thing, either.
Excerpt from “The Gay Thing” by Henry Rollins, which I think is from his show “Think Tank”:
“I hear that I am gonna come out on CNN in Chicago… no one would give a fck. Then I heard I was gonna come out to Kennedy on MTV… a little about me: if I was gay, there’d be no closet - you would never see the closet I came out of. Why? I would have burned it for kindling by the time I was twelve. Because I know with all certainty in my mind, there’s nothing wrong with being gay and you know it…so I’m hearing all these rumors that I’m coming out of the closet… if I was gay, at this stage of the game, 37 years old, aging, alternative ‘icon’, kinda gettin’ gritty, gettin’ soft in the head, I’d be taking out ads! Aging alternative icon wants dck and lots of it. Please please please bring it in! … You know, life is short, get off as much as possible. So I would not be subtle… so I got to thinking about homophobia - I don’t understand it… I can’t understand how you can get to that mentality…why do some people get tripped up on what I think is the most entry-level obstacle?”
To me, this sounds completely reasonable. We DO get hung up on this, and really, who cares? I’m in favor of gay people being out simply because I think eventually we will get bored with speculating and FINALLY give the issue the attention it deserves - which is none, unless we are having sex with the individual in question.
Point taken – I know you are correct. However, I’m not sure there are a lot of “keeping up appearances” marriages anymore in Hollywood. IMHO, someone being married to the opposite sex drastically reduces their chances of being exclusively homosexual.
That’s just conjecture on my part, though. I’m prepared to have my ignorance fought if someone has the dope concerning recent stars and celebrity marriages (last 10-15 years or so).
I guess in an odd way, Anne Heche is an example against my viewpoint.
Does anyone else remember Geraldo Rivera coming out with a tale of a quasi-homosexual encounter he once had with Mick Jagger? Something on the order of one of them feeling up the other at a party (no real sex)? This would have come out in the fall of 1991.
I read somewhere that she is bi and had a relationship with drew barrymore and they even made noises about stipey fathering their baby but he declined. She is with a guy and they are co-habiting last time I read her mag, no idea if they are married though.
I think lissener is saying he lost respect because Henry Rollins makes a point of denying being gay, when he is in fact gay, at least according to lissener’s source. He believed, as gobear asserts, that Henry Rollins wouldn’t deny being gay if he were. He’s being a hypocrite for lying about his sexuality while saying he wouldn’t lie about it.
Okay, now I know I wasn’t imagining that she was/is bi. Thanks.
Yeah, but how do we know that Rollins is gay? Because if he is, I’m heading down to LA! (My bf would understand–he’ll try to beat me there!)
Actually, it’s Boneshakers. The other bar was Foxy’s, just below Allen’s. Neither are exclusively gay, but they are the only two that consistently have a larger percentage of gay clients.
Yeah, I read a Bowie biography a few years back that said he was quite bisexual. (also claimed he was extremely well endowed 
) The book included this picture which shows them looking cozy…
OHMYGOD! :eek: I didn’t realize the creep factor my statement was packing. :eek:
Is Christopher Lowell gay?
No, seriously. I’ve seen him wearing a wedding ring. But he couldn’t LOOK any gayer if he did his show in buttless leather chaps and an open vest.
After discovering the music of Canadian twins Tegan & Sara, I was perusing two of their fansites, reading articles on them. None of the articles came close to mentioning their sexuality (they seem to be very private people), but a few things had me wondering. Then I found some articles from gay-themed magazines and papers. But again, nothing outright was said.
I still didn’t make any conclusions. Many straight artists and celebrities are popular in the gay community, of course, and are often the subject of articles in gay-themed media. Although such media would probably be more likely to mention the sexuality of a straight actor, than that of a gay one; considering their main theme and audience.
Finally, one article made an outright statement that Tegan and Sara were both gay. I believe it was from a gay-themed magazine or paper, but I’m not certain. It, or another article, mentioned that they both dated boys when they were younger, but they both currently have girlfriends. (One lives in Vancouver, the other in Montreal, I believe.)
(I don’t quite understand the relatively common heterosexual male fantasy of being intimate with twins. Then there’s the heterosexual male fantasy of interrupting and joining two lesbians. (I’m sure lesbians love that idea. :rolleyes: ) Tegan and Sara fulfill both those fantasies, and at the same time venture into the arena of “family affairs”. :eek:
Anyhoo…
I don’t know about that one. I know a guy who is a dead ringer for Christopher Lowell, right down to the effeminite mannerisms. It’s down-right eerie, really. And he’s straight. Super-straight. Married-with-children-and-several-mistresses straight.
So . . . don’t you think that if the guy who said all that turned out, in fact, to be gay, he’d be a pretty serious hypocrite?
Guess I’m the only idjit to think, upon reading just the thread title, that the reference was to Harlan Ellison, since he is as well known by just his initials in the SF world as his full name.
I was thinking of his admission that he had slept with over 500 women–thinkng, “Damn, he went out of his way to cultivate that beard.”
Sir Rhosis
Ah, if only that were true…
Rumors that I’ve heard over the years:
[ul]
[li]Robin Williams[/li][li]Howard Jones[/li][li]Christopher Reeves[/li][li]Just about every male on any home improvement show[/li][li]Esprix[/li][li]John Wayne[/li][li]George W. Bush[/li][/ul]
Needless to say, most of them have been just rumor, with no substance to them.
JOhn.
Ah. I see where you’re coming from now. I don’t know that Rollins IS, in fact, gay - and from what you said earlier, neither do you. Someone told you he was, and you think that person has some insight into the truth, so I suppose I can see your point. I do wonder if your source’s information has any roots in Rollins’s own story of being molested by a man in his childhood.
But getting back to the quote, no, actually, I wouldn’t find this to be necessarily hypocritical - even if it was a lie. Hypocrisy would be if he was saying things like “Man, I hate gay people, I would NEVER be gay” and so on, and THEN be gay. In fact, in the bit I excerpted above, Rollins also says, “How cool would it be to be bisexual? You could just walk into a room and go, ‘mmmmm-YEAH!’” So he seems pretty OK with the idea of “alternative” sexuality. If he decided to explore that on a personal level, I don’t see hypocrisy.
Of course, IF he, in fact,m turned out to be gay.
Do you have any evidence? (Please, please, please have some vidence.)
Esprix is GAY!?!?!?!?