No argument as to the merits of the OP; like your typical lawyer, I can see both sides of this argument.
But if my personality were such that ivn and Rand Rover developed crushes on me, I’d be doing some serious re-evaluation of what has become of my life.
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I don’t think it’s her personality that has them going. It was the photo she posted showing skin up to her ass.
I don’t have a crush on her of any sort. I just think that a bunch of (probably balding and chubby) internet dorks calling her fat, etc, is pretty pathetic.
Also, anyone who manages to piss off so many of the hypocritical bores who fill this board with smarmy “jokes” and poorly thought out illogical diatribes gets a check in the win column.
Jebus H. Christ—how many times do I have to warn you people about letting Armenians in the house?
I think an internet dork calling other people internet dorks is pretty comical.
She’s not going to fuck you, IVN. So you can stop acting like she’s all that.
That’s not the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make, and Lobsang I apologize if I’m wrong about this, is that recovering alcoholics CAN’T have any alcohol, if they want to succeed.
People, fat or thin, have to eat. How many alcoholics would be successful if they had to have a minimum amount of alcohol a day, and also keep it under some amount? What about smokers? They have to have 2 cigs a day, but can have no more than 5. How would that work?
I’ve lost 60 pounds once, and was actually thin. I also have lost 20-30 lbs a couple of other times. It does take a certain robotic devotion to concentrating on staying thin- if I deviated, I tended to gain weight.
One of the more overlooked weight loss issues is the time frame that people have to work under. They recommend losing no more than 2 lbs per week to stay healthy. If you’re 60 lbs over where you want to be, we’re talking 30 weeks until you get there. 30 weeks, or if you prefer, starting January 1, and not being done until the end of July, more or less. Keeping up a 2 lb per week weight loss plan for that long is HARD. That’s dropping your caloric intake below your BMR by 7000 calories a week. Probably harder than anything else I can think of.
I’m not exactly pleased with being fat, but I’m not lamenting it and whining about it either. I think it’s one of those things like alcoholism, tobacco addiction, sex addiction. etc… that unless you’re in that person’s shoes, it’s really easy to point a finger and say “Don’t do that, are you stupid?”, or “Don’t you know better? That’s wrecking your life!”
Oh noes! Skin? Up to her ass? That would be… her leg! Oh holy shit, won’t someone think of the children?
so you’re either an uncontrollable sot or stone cold sober? people can’t moderate their alcohol intake? the people that completely abstain from it do so because they have chosen to do so because it’s easier for them to avoid alcoholism this way than to monitor their intake. (i think it’s also part of the AA cult behavior, but no matter)
I don’t know. If alcohol wasn’t a drug that had physical dependence issues (and even if it does), a lot of them could probably do it, but an easier path, as mentioned, is to just get rid of it wholesale.
same thing. it’s not impossible, just easier.
so, basically, all we’re really arriving at after these analogies is that losing weight may be harder than smoking cessation because your body requires the substance that you’re attempting to regulate. OTOH, food doesn’t have the same kind of dependence properties that nicotine or ethanol does (apologies to the pedants here).
no one claims it’s not hard. of course, if you (not you, global you) didn’t let yourself get 60 pounds overweight to begin with, it would’ve been a lot easier to maintain a healthy weight.
Unfortunately
a) the loud majority of people “in your shoes” have not embraced any semblance of a position that this a problem. Indeed, they react in the opposite way and embrace being fat. Alcoholics, tobacco addicts, by and large, embrace the detrimental effects of their afflictions. The minority position with these is that it’s “no big deal” where that (at least) seems to be the majority opinion for fatties.
b) no one operates in a social bubble. your acts and mine affect others, so claiming that only the direct victims have the monopoly on criticism is, imho, incorrect. and it’s a soundly rejected logic when looking at boozehounds and chainsmokers, btw.
Well, you have to admit that ivn only came charging in to her defense after she posted a flattering photo showing some leg.
Wait, that was her leg? Jesus, I thought she was wearing khakis. I need to go look at that picture again…
I’m sure you believe that I would have to admit that, but I’m thinking maybe he didn’t come in until after she showed the picture with her ::gasp:: leg because perhaps he didn’t see the thread until then? She posted that picture back at Halloween. Do you think he’s been sitting and waiting for the right moment to swoop in and defend her?
Not only are you supposing an indignation that doesn’t exist, Sleeps, but you’re apparently oblivious to the fact that virtally all of his defense of her consisted of claims that the people criticizing her are doing so only because they could never get a girl as allegedly hot as she is. Clearly the way she looks (in that photo, anyway) was driving his defense, so it’s equally clear that it was the driving force behind his defense.
Well, proper women don’t show any skin above the knee. I mean really, she shows off skin to the bottom of her bum for Halloween, and what’s next - she’s dancing around at the local Montessori school wearing naught but a tasseled butt plug? “Come on children, time to rub down the ponygrrl! Whiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnney!”
O Amazing Kreskin, you do so impress me with your abilities. Please, tell us more about the things you’ve determined from information stored deep within your rectal cavity!
Dancing!? DANCING!? OMG, haven’t you seen Footloose? Don’t you know the kind of trouble that dancing can cause? I hope you’re happy now.
Remember when I said you’re supposing an indignation that doesn’t exist? Well, you’re still doing it and you’ve managed to drag Una Persson along with you. Both of you could post nude photos of yourselves and it would be fine with me. Just be forewarned that I don’t think you’re nearly as hot as you do.
Yes, because Una and I have spent most of this thread trying to convince everyone how hot we are. Thank goodness you are here to tell us that you don’t think we are hot. See, you’re not completely as useless as you seem.
Isn’t it about time for the nurse to come in and tighten your straps back up again and shut down your internet for the night? Now, before you go favor us all with a story about how much better life was in the good old days and how milk used to be twenty five cents a gallon.
You just don’t understand how hard it is to try to insert a tasseled butt plug…joke, and not have it look too contrived.