Hello Faddah - MMP For Dad

Complicated is an understatement on my side.

For the longest time after my parents divorced I hated my Dad. Mom never said a bad word about him, but he pissed me off in many ways and we didn’t get along until I grew up and he mellowed out a bit. When I was able to stand up to him and tell him I didn’t want to hear him talk about certain things we got along a lot better. I still have to tell him that sometimes, but not so much, and he never said a bad word to me when I got pregnant. It must’ve been a shock to him, but he loves his Grandson. In fact he’s taking us to California to Disneyworld in a few months.

It’s only a week, but a week will be enough. As I’ve grown up I realize we are a lot alike. Similar tempers, and if we’re in too close quarters for too long we grate on each other and get snappish, though I have enough of Mom’s temperment that it takes me longer or a harder push to get snappy.

Fathers day is always strange around here. Dad is most of a province away, so I sent his card in the mail at the beginning of the week. What hurts my heart though is that my son’s father isn’t around. Last year, they made pictures for their fathers. Now Mom picks him up from daycare because I can’t make it there in time so I never saw it. He ripped it to pieces because he didn’t have a father to give it to. That’s the hardest part of this day, even though we’re better without him (for many reasons, which I won’t get into).

My weekend was nice. Mom watched Velociraptor for me, so I could get out of the city with some friends. In about a week or two I should have a car, then we can all get out on day trips together. Lots of pretty scenery around here and some nifty little places.

I’m tired and hungry so I should call my Dad, get some food, and go to sleep methinks.

Hello everyone! Sorry I’m reporting in a bit late. I flew in last night and had dinner with my parents and my grandmother, then forced myself to stay awake until around 11pm. Then I promptly passed out, and got up at around 7am, which isn’t too bad.

Olive and I had an uneventful flight. We got through customs fairly easily, although she wouldn’t stop meowing once she saw me. I attracted every kid within hearing range as I was waiting for my parents; it was cute. My mom LOVES Olive and treats her like a grandkid; my dad is more tolerant than I expected.

The parting at the airport was less tearful than it could have been, I suppose - we got our crying done beforehand, at my apartment. I’m trying not to think about how badly I miss him right now.

I haven’t had a cigarette in over a day (my parents don’t know I smoke) and am twitching ever-so-slightly, waiting for my mom to go to work.

Love you all! :: muah ::

Glad you arrived safely, Haze!

I just took the dogs out for an evening pee, and apparently I’m a mosquito buffet. I know I’m sweet, but must I be delicious to evil insects??

Stoopit skeeties!

Okay, OUCH. Just got done mowing the back forty and I have to say that was TEH SUXXORZ! Thigh high mutant ninja grass from hell, gigantic mole/gopher hills and corresponding holes and a liberal sprinkling o’dogshit that was not possible to spot and remove ahead of time. GACK. My yard blows chunks this year, I haven’t had time/money for a garden, it’s been raining way too much and Himself didn’t do the mowing he said he would. :rolleyes: At least the exercise felt kinda good–I was going to do a house clean but can’t seem to get up the gumption, especially since I’d have to box up a bunch of Himself’s stuff to do it right and I don’t wanna run the risk of being accused of messing with his belongings. Double :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I have way too much blackberry out there too, didn’t realize it was THAT bad. Dammit. I need a goat! Or three.

Paging beebs! Don’t make us go find you, young man!

Well. As to the OP. It would probably not be a gigantic surprise were I to disclose that I don’t really have a relationship with my dad. I’m the oldest of three girls and only my middle sister really has any contact with him and that’s just for the benefit of her kids. My father was a poster child for early '60’s style detached dads–his mom died when he was young and between then and when his dad remarried a widow with her own kids they had a housekeeper who would regularly fabricate bad behavior on my dad’s part such that he basically got a major beating most days of the week. This made him not only pretty free with his own hands but gave him an abiding distrust of women in general. My mom says he really only knows how to relate to women sexually and I think that’s a fair assessment. He started being serially unfaithful to my mom when I was about six or so, which totally broke her heart. The older we got and the more independent and the more we turned into women the further he withdrew and only interacted with us in a disciplinarian manner.

It hit me really hard when this happened, because as the oldest (with a three year gap between me and the next kid) I had been his favorite, especially since I was a total tomboy. He went from helping me build go-karts and rope swings to basically never speaking to me except to criticize. He also did way more hitting than I think is appropriate–eventually I called a halt to that by going berk when he came after me and kicking the shit out of him. We called it a draw at that point–I guess I was about fourteen or so. When I got pregnant he threw me out of the house at sixteen because he didn’t think it befitted his station in life to have a pregnant daughter, in spite of a classmate of mine whose father worked for the same company–when she ended up in the same condition they kept her with them, she had the baby and grandma babysat until she got through college and could manage on her own, just a big happy family. Me, I married my first husband in a hurry up wedding with a drunk JP officiating. Soon after my parents and sisters moved to the Bay Area so I’ve been pretty much on my own with no or minimal support system since then.

I made a promise to my dad a long time ago that any communication with me he initiated personally (he has this tendency to use his wife as a social secretary) I would answer–I’ve only had to respond maybe five times total in the last thirty years. I have to say that the moment when my indifference to my dad became outright antipathy came during a visit I and my second husband paid him and my step mom while they were living in Paris. My dad really likes the sauce but believes he’s not an alcoholic because he only drinks good wine–just three or more bottles a day. O–kay! Anyway, he drank a fair amount at lunch and refused to let anyone else drive back, and during the drive he merged over a lane straight into a motorcyclist. The guy was right next to my window and I screamed at my Dad to stop merging but he didn’t listen and next thing I knew the motorcyclist was bouncing off the road divider at about seventy miles an hour–and dad refused to stop. Because the French authorities weren’t kind to Americans drunk driving and hitting people, y’see, which would be inconvenient. I never did find out whether the motorcyclist died or not. When we got back to Paris my dad tried to get us to write up affidavits saying it wasn’t his fault in case somebody reported his license number. We left a day later and he never did get caught, which in his mind probably means he didn’t do it. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I would never have known what a real father was had my mom not finally dumped dad and subsequently took up with my stepfather when I was about eighteen. He was the sweetest, kindest, funniest, most loving person I think I’ve ever known. He and my mom were together for over twenty years and she swears they never had a single fight–and I totally believe that. He had a heart as big as all outdoors and he took us all in and loved us as though he’d fathered every one of us. He gave me away at my second wedding, not my bio-dad, who was the only one who didn’t understand why that was. He died of a brain tumor in October of 1998 and there hasn’t been a single day since that I haven’t thought of him and missed him. My mom has never recovered from his death, although a year or so ago she finally moved from the house they shared and finally started sleeping in a real bed again–she wouldn’t sleep in their mutual bed after he died and spent almost ten years sleeping on the couch.

So this Father’s Day, as always, it’s all about him–and man, do I wish I could talk to him right now… I’ve always felt he keeps an eye on us from the Summerland, where he’s just waiting for my mom to join him. Rest easy, Kent, we love you!

Per a request in the last MMP - groomed doggies! That’ll be the first 4 pics on the page.

And so ends my weekend. Is it Firday yet??

Glad you made it safe, Haze!

I don’t talk much about my parents. I was raised by people who suffered from severe PTSD, and it made life… interesting.

I do feel pride for my father (and mother) because they survived some pretty horrific stuff, did some unfathomably brave acts and built a life from nothing.

However, the verbal and physical abuse and neglect make it hard to feel love and affection. He’s elderly now, so he’s happy with a visit and a nice meal. He enjoys my kids and the antics of my dog. It’s a peace, of a sort and it will have to do.

The odd thing is, for all his faults he was the more nurturing and caring parent of the two. He taught me that a woman should know how to drive and have a credit card in her name alone. She should have her name on everything (house, car etc) and have the means to support herself. So I was lucky to have had a parent that encouraged a girl to be a scientist and always be independent. But the scars remain and they don’t fade so fast, especially if you’ve made choices that reinforce some of the damaging behavior. But I own those choices, not him.

Aren’t we a cheery bunch?

You’re right, swampy, I do appreciate the extra money, however, the profit margins aren’t as high if someone calls late in the day and I have to go buy food at the regular grocery store.

Besides, mostly I’m still just crabby about my dad being a jerk earlier.

Haze, I’m so glad that you made it in safely!!!

beebs, darling, I hope you’re alright.

YAY!!! Haze made it to Seoul! So did Olive! YAY!!!

CutiePie I understand. I hope tomorrow is better for ya.

I think Scruffy and Bernie look so keeeeeeeeyooooooooooote!!!

Ok, gonna get off’n the puter. I hear thunderboomers gettin’ real close. YAY!!! I love me a good tstorm!

Nitey Nite Y’all!

I called Dad and wished him a happy Father’s Day(Like I told him, if for no other reason than he’s still competent to change the will. :smiley: ) We weren’t close growing up, mainly because I was the model for Calvin. It’s gotten better since I started acting like an adult. I tend to take after him, I kinda like that.
From the last MMP : My doc isn’t sure why I’m dizzy, I’m on meds for two weeks to see if it helps(so far, not much). More tests if I ain’t better.

{{{{{{{for all the Mumpers who didn’t have a good time growing up}}}}}}}}
{{{{{Aleq}}}}

Hellloooo beebs!! Page the white courtesy phone!

Yay for Haze and Olive!

FCM, are you sure you got the same dog back?

Oh, okay-I’ll write about my Dad, too.

My Dad is a doctor and brilliant in his field (obstetrical and neonatal pathology). He teaches med students --or did for the past 25 years, but he gave his final lecture on Friday and is now (officially) retired. He is a difficult man to get to know. On the one hand, he can be charming and funny and is given to bad puns with a booming laugh. On the other, he can be officious and picayune, arrogant and well, just a bastard. He played games with the child support and alimony once my parents got a divorce (which took them 6 years to do–most of my childhood). He then married a woman with 4 kids who looked a great deal like my mother (and was also a nurse), they lasted maybe 3 years. Then, when I was 21, they remarried–I mean my mom and dad did. Everyone thinks that’s sweet–it’s not. It’s painful and confusing. Neither of them learned a damned thing apart–they fight just as viciously now as they did then…

My Dad taught me a lot. Like to not give up when a challenge appears, and to learn as much as I can (both of them did that). He taught me an appreciation of theater and the arts as well as humor. Overall, I’d have to say he accepts me for what I am–I think. He’s hard to read. Certainly I know he wants me to be happy. That is no small thing for me who almost never saw him from age 8 to age 14. I worshipped my dad as a little girl. Dancing on top of his wingtips was heaven. He’d twirl me around and we laugh. I look a great deal like him as well.

Dads are complicated creatures, but then so are moms. People just are, I suppose. I really liked reading all these posts about our fathers. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories.
Hazel--you made it! I am so glad. I was thinking about you today. I hope your re-acculturation goes smoothly. Are nicotine patches available over the counter in Korea?

I love reading about everyone’s dads - thanks for sharing. I’m still too exhausted to write anything in-depth.

rigs, they do, but I’m not really addicted to the nictoine part. Really, I’m not. If I’m distracted enough I can go a day or so without even thinking about a cigarette. I only crave a smoke after a big meal, when I’m drinking alcohol or coffee, or when I’m stressed/extremely bored, and it’s just as much the act of smoking per se as it is the nicotine rush. Without these triggers I don’t particularly want a smoke. The problem is that it’s hard to go through any extended amount of time without any of these triggers popping up.

I only smoke 2-3 a day anyway, and my parents both work, so I think I’ll be okay.

I should go run some errands. I’m tempted to take a nap, but I really shouldn’t indulge.

I did catch some of the tail end of the last MMP. :: hugs for beebs and Aleq ::

If they’re not, maybe we should send a care package with some in it…

My Pa
by Junior Bear

When the nasty old bogeyman
Fills me with fears
And my little old pinafore
Is all wet with tears
And my cute little pug nose
Is all red for crying
Who is it that saves me
And keeps me from dying?
My Pa!
When my little pink cheeks
Are pale with fright
Who is it that lifts me
And holds me tight
And says, “There, there, little man
Everything is all right?”
My Pa!

Wow, excellent OP, NoLa. You really started a nice discussion of Dads.

Yay for Haze and Olive!!! When do you start working, Haze?

Paging, beebs, come in please.

My Dad died in a car accident when I was 2 1/2. I can relate to Velociraptor - it always felt awkward at school to be the only one who didn’t have a dad. (I went to a small Catholic school. No one’s parents were divorced and my mom was the only widow that I knew of.) We would usually do something with my Grandad or at least send him a card, but that was never the same. At some point my brother and I started giving my Mom the Father’s Day cards we’d made in school.

Even though I was very little when Dad died, I have a couple of foggy memories of him. My favorite is that he would get on his hands and knees when he came home from work and my brother and I would ride horsey on him. My brother is 15 months younger than me, so he doesn’t remember Dad at all.

I didn’t figure out what it really meant to have lost my father until my friends started losing theirs and until my brother became a father. I grew up denying that his death had affected me and didn’t actually grieve until I was over 30.

I don’t give much thought to Father’s Day any more, except when my brother is around…

It’s way past my bedtime. How’d that happen?

It doesn’t seem like a good sign that I already have the Don Juannas…

Off to beddie bye.

Hugs.

GT

{{{{GT}}}} and all the folks here who have lost their dads, good and bad. :frowning:

Hazel–I was never much addicted to my cigs, either. I quit no problem, cold turkey over 20 years ago. I liked to smoke in bars and while watching TV (it’s a great distraction while your manicure is drying). I still miss the behavior, but not the smoke/smell/health effects etc. I also miss being rail thin, which I was when I smoked…

#1 son leaves on Tuesday. It’s starting to hit me. He’ll be gone until July 6. :eek:

and then Daughter goes in August. Gah. My babies are growing up…

Here is a pic of the three of them (about 4 years ago. I need to do this again, soon).

mykids

I am suddenly feeling all nostalgic and sentimental. Off to bed before I get maudlin!

HAZE! tacklehugs! Glad you got there in one piece–welcome to the night crew…

**Rigs, ** your kids are cute!

{{{Doggio}}} What up wit dat dizzynizz, anyway?

{{{Pie}}} just cuz… :stuck_out_tongue:

Sleep well, y’all!

Beginning of July, I think. Nothing’s certain yet. I actually want to start working, kind of, to keep myself distracted.

Your kids are cute, rigs. Your daughter kinda looks like you.

I feel very disoriented right now. While I was running errands I discovered that I’ve forgotten all the local bus routes. Also, it’s taking me a small eternity to compose text messages in Korean. I used to be able to do them with my eyes closed!

Olive has discovered the joy of sleeping under sofas. (The sofa I had back in Chicago was too low for her to fit comfortably under.)

Too early.

Ugh.

I don’t think that I slept more than an hour at a time last night.

I agree. Early. Morning, everyone.

Okay, dishes and cleaning and tidying and laundry (which never ever ends) and four extra people for dinner and mystep-MiL is coming over this afternoon. Deep breath. And the baby’s kept me awake intermittently since one-thirty.

Yes, he was quite loud and kept me awake intermittently too. :smiley: