He **did **say it. From the transcript -
Trump: I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
His first wife detailed a rape in her book. He’s been compelled to appear in a federal case about sexually assaulting a teen.
For a guy whose supporters claim isn’t condoning sexual assault he sure seems to be on board w/ committing sexual assault.
Trump was making a point about what some women will subject themselves to in the presence of powerful and wealthy men, the “Grab them by the pussy” part was to illustrate how far they would let someone go i.e. to the point of absurdity; “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
Keep in mind that once upon a time women/girls used to throw their panties on stage at concerts.
I really hate to be defending Trump, really, but he didn’t say it. He said he just starts kissing women and they let him do it, but what comes after Bush says “Whatever you want”, Trump is trying to give an exaggerated example of what a star could get away with.
I see. So Trump was making a point to young Billy about the loose and willing ways of the womens rather than about his own proclivities? Perhaps as a moral lesson, so as to help forestall any tendency in the lad toward unnecessary restraint around such wantons?
Does not seem the simplest way to parse Trump’s remarks, but also doesn’t make him seem any less pathological, so parse how you gotta parse.
Yes. He doesn’t wait to kiss them. No doubt about that. He did not say that he grabbed anyone by the pussy. That’s the part that sounds like hyperbole to me.
No, he was explaining about what actually happens. Presidents get oral sex from 19 year old’s in the oval office. We all know what rock stars, and athletes get.
You understand the difference between panty throwing, oral sex offering teens and a powerful married man taking what he wants without waiting to establish what is on offer, though, don’t you?
If Trump had said “when you’re famous women just kiss you without asking and make it clear you can do whatever you want to them” his comments would be at worst mildly controversial, and he would indeed merely have been speaking an often unspoken truth.
Wow. :eek: That is interesting. I guess in that family it’s necessary.
[Photo shows the whole Trump family, and ALL of the women have their hands crossed in front of their crotches, either holding a handbag or just clasped.]
But to me it is at least as much about what Trump’s comments say about him as it is about the comments themselves. Let’s assume he didn’t mean anything he said and has never done to anyone the type of things he said. His comments still suggest he’s a crass egotistical baboon.
Having just read over this thread I can’t even begin to see how you think this is a fair characterisation of what AK84 has been saying. His posts seem quite to the contrary. There are several posts where he explicitly argues (against opposition) that what Trump discussed was sexual assault.
A bit of a problem with your examples is: they are simply not relevant.
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[li]It’s undeniably true that Trump said what he said[/li][li]Neither he nor his camp have actually defended what he said. Unless “locker room talk” is a defense in your mind[/li][/ol]
This thread is asking you to defend his comments. To bring another politician’s actions into this (Weiner’s or Clinton’s or Kennedy’s or Gingrich’s) doesn’t actually defend his comment.
Neither does attacking the opposition’s perceived hypocritical words actually “defend” the comment.
And all of this simply makes me wonder if you actually can defend his words.
Hear ye, hear ye! Let the record show that the thread clown Clothahump has hereby of his own free will irrevocably and without caveat or possibility of retraction committed himself to acceptance of the proposition before the group, to wit:
“Settling a case out of court constitutes admission of guilt”
Ladies and Gentlemen, proceed to examine the implications…
