Here comes the Bullshit

It’s a tiny bit more complicated than that.

Remember last Presidential election? Bush, Gore, or Nader?

I liked Nader. At the very least, I couldn’t think of any large corporations that like him. I couldn’t for the life of me think of who he might sell my ass to in order to finance his campaign. True, he might make me wear a helmet to drive on the interstate and/or go to the bathroom, but that’s certainly no worse than trying to start a war with Iraq and ignore North Korea when Iraq probably doesn’t have any nukes, but North Korea probably does.

It pained me that Nader was doomed.

Y’see… it ain’t just the candidates. It ain’t just the men in the suits. It ain’t just the Prez And His Running Mate.

It’s the Party.

It isn’t just George Dubya Bush and Little Dickie up there running the show, calling the shots. It’s the guys who put them there. It’s the Republican Party.

These are the Kingmakers, the Big Shots, the .90 Calibers, the men who make the men who make the world.

And they are politicians, the same as any other. They are powerful men, and they know about power, and they are in no hurry at all to turn it loose, and at any time, should they find that their power has DIMINISHED, they will not rest until they have regained it, and even THEN they will not rest, because if they do, they might lose some of it again.

Not bashing Republicans. At least not specifically. As far as I can tell, the Democrats aren’t much different. Just less well organized, more fractious.

And Lo, I opened up my Mystic Third Nostril, and with it, I smelt the stench of the Future, and All Possible Futures beside it.

I smelled Bush, of course. I knew he was very likely to take it. But I smelled Gore, as well… and far away, across a thousand lines of probability, I even smelled a world in which the American people, in an unprecedented epidemic of intelligence and sanity, elected Ralph Nader to be President Of The United States.

It was the worst mistake they ever made.

Almost before Nader finished his oath of office, the shitstorm began. Accusations were made. Congress promptly appointed a dozen special prosecutors to investigate a dozen weird and dodgy dealings Nader was said to have made in the past.

Meanwhile, President Nader moved to introduce legislation to Improve America.

Congress sat there. They stared at the legislation for a moment, as if it were a parking ticket with your name on it that has fallen off your car and landed in a pile of moist dogshit, face up, with your name clearly visible on it.

Then, all as one, they rose and blew it into steaming confetti.

Then the leaders of each party promptly came up with similar legislation, but with enough changes so as to not piss off the constituency, and allow anyone but Nader to take credit for it, and promptly began voting it through the House and Senate.

For four years, it went on like this. Any time President Nader attempted to do anything, he was promptly overridden by Congress. If he attempted to veto anything, Party leaders angrily called press conferences to roar about how the President was trying to stop vital health care legislation, tax relief, interfere with the economy, starve the poor, cheat the rich, and molest small animals and insects.

President Nader did attempt to appoint some judges to the Supreme Court. His nominations were not only NOT confirmed by Congress, they were laughed at. It finally reached a point where serious judicial wannabes were asking Nader NOT to try to appoint them to anything, so as to salvage what remained of their careers.

Towards the end of his first term, as the dozen investigations of the President’s financial, legal, and personal life ground on, President Nader complained on 60 Minutes that Congress, which was firmly in the grip of the Two Dominant Parties, was attempting to quash him as President, simply to make him look ineffective, and therefore further the chances of a Democrat or Republican to take the Presidency in '04.

Congress responded the next day by attempting impeachment procedures. The headlines went berserk. Dozens of innuendos and unverifiable rumors were leaked to a thousand newspapers, all claiming to be full of facts from the dozen juicy investigations of Nader’s background. Meanwhile, the U.S. Government remained deadlocked.

At one point, Pakistan, India, and North and South Korea all got into a four-way nuclear war. Congress immediately blamed the situation on Nader’s foreign policy.

…so who won the 2004 election in this faraway reality? Beats me. My Third Nostril cannot smell that far, alas. The last thing I percieved was President Nader being loaded into a van, wearing a straitjacket, giggling and shouting, “Je Suis Le Roi!”

I sure hope this reality turns out better.

Then again, in that one, at least the President was sane when he started his term.

Many, many many people. The majority of people. Consider this. You post interesting OP’s to a message board consisting of people interested enough to respond. By doing so, you immediately highlight yourself as a person so far from the mainstream as to be totally and utterly unqualified to think like your average joe.

The moment that I realised what the average voter was like, and what pushed their buttons was the moment I underwent a total change of viewpoint, from being a passionate lefty to a vaguely left leaning cynic.

Because doing things is hard, saying you have done things is easy, and most people don’t notice the difference. I have trouble understanding and coping with that fact, it goes against every grain in my body. But the more I apply it, the easier it becomes to understand and get along in the world.

Of course you know that my opponent, Kalashnikov, is a known devotee of a notorious pedophile…

Of course elucidator is known to use the internet to chat with people that he admits are devotees of known pedophiles…

Research. I was doing research.

But I commend Princhester, an Aussie who has sobered up long enough to post what is very nearly a complete sentence.

lol

I want to get the federal government completely out of every area where it’s made such a mess — …education, law enforcement…highway boondoggles

So who teaches me and everyone else? Private school isn’t affordable for everyone. Who enforces the law? Vigilante groups? Who keeps the road in good shape? Civic-minded citizens?

I want to make the federal government so small you won’t pay any income tax. (The tariffs and excise taxes already being collected are enough to finance the constitutional functions of government.)

Sure, who doesn’t want to pay less taxes?

I want to free you immediately and completely from the Social Security system.

Amen to that. SS is a pyramid scheme and I would opt out of it in a second if I could.

I want to end the nightmare of Prohibition by stopping the insane War on Drugs.

That too, although I might want EVERYTHING legal. I say we start with blanket legalization of marijuana and possibly decriminalizing small amounts of cocaine.

I want to restore completely your unconditional right to keep and bear any weapon necessary to defend yourself and your family.

Even though I don’t like guns, I don’t begrudge someone the right to buy rifles or even handguns as long as we can be reasonably sure they aren’t a felon or insane. Does this mean that ex-cons who are mentally unstable can go buy an M-16, no questions asked?

I don’t want to appoint Supreme Court judges who are “strict constructionists” or who divine “original intent.” I want to appoint judges who can read the plain language of the Constitution — who understand that when the Constitution says “Congress shall make no law,” it means Congress shall make no law.

There’s several important exceptions to the first amendment, most notably regarding libel, national security issues, and deceptive advertising. Should the media be allowed to spread lies about whoever it wants, without fear of legal recourse? Should we publish any national secrets we get our hands on? Should companies be allowed to lie to you to get you to buy their product without fear of punishment?

I agree with Jonathan. The Libertarians have some good ideas, but a lot of that platform sounds very, very extremist.

The idea here is to give power back to the states.

I like the idea in that if you don’t like how things are going in state A you can just move to state B without leaving the country. I guess the downside would be that certain states would no doubt begin to adopt isolationist policies and possibly set the stage for a second civil war if given too much power.

I resent that remark. I haven’t sobered up at all.

[sub]Besides which at least even as an ignorant 'strayan I know that an ellipsis is indicated by three and not four periods. So there.[/sub]

Actually, the following is the proper indicator of an ellipsis at the end of a sentence … elucidator ‘s only mistake was not to leave a space between his last word and the ellipsis’ first dot. An ellipsis within a sentence … usually used to indicate a change in direction of thought, or moving on to another thought while leaving the first unfinished … consists of three dots, the first and last dots being separated by a space from the words preceding and following the ellipsis.

So, I wonder if I should preview to see if I can find evidence of Gaudere’s Law? Naw, I’ll risk it. Sorry for the hijack.

Fatware wrote:

Fool! :wink: There should be no space before the apostrophe in the genitive case: “elucidator 's”.

Got me! BTW, I like Fatware almost as much as Fatwater … sounds like a whole new line of fast food containers.

LOL. Reminds me of getting called Crisco constantly.

Fuck the two party system!

D’oh! :smack:

I admit I had not appreciated the subtlety that an ellipsis mark is four and not three dots at the end of a sentence. But I would make two points.

Firstly, an ellipsis is something left out. So an ellipsis mark shouldn’t be used to indicate a change in direction of thought, as such. I suppose it is used in that way because the change in direction of thought often follows a failure to complete the previous thought, but nonetheless…

Secondly, according to this site you are wrong about requiring a space between the last word and the ellipsis mark. They say that the reason there are four dots to indicate an ellipsis at the end of a sentence is that one is the period, which of course follows the last word of the sentence without a space.

Sorry about this complete hijack, Lib. But you have to admit, you participated, so…

Lib you just stay away from my genitives! I’m a real open minded guy, and all, but there’s a limit.

If you’ll vote for me I promise to stay away from your genitives. Unless that’s not what you want. In which case I promise to touch them. Or eat mud. Or whatever I have to do to get elected.

Just as long as you let me keep dangling my modifiers in public, I’ll vote for ya’.

so…when is Cecil going to run?

Good question! What will Cecil promise us?