Here it is, she's been asking for it, the pitting of Quiddity Glomfuster

[brownie55]

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
OK, let’s go over this again:

I said that this is not the place for you to vent your frustration that people IRL don’t understand you.

You said that you never said that people don’t understand you.

I gave examples where you said that people don’t understand you.

You now acknowlege that people don’t understand you, and that you have to modify your behavior accordingly, IRL.

Let’s go full circle now, and I will repeat myself…this is not the place to vent your frustration that people IRL don’t understand you. You don’t have to edit your vocabulary here, this is true. Most of us know how to look up the big words you use. My suggestion, though, is that you learn what to edit and what not to. There is no place in life where it is appropriate not to edit our base impulses. Use the big words, cut back on the snottiness.

The OP was suggesting that maybe some people may alter their behavior based on gender. WhyNot said that she believes that some people treat her differently because she is female. What you said about this thread was:

Can you explain to me again where this happened? Because it’s not in either of the examples you gave.
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Try Liar Liar pants on fire, because she won’t respond. But it will show your evidence.

[NinetyWt]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
Basically, I’m being told ‘you evil cuntbitch from hell; scum-sucking harridan who probably spawned Satan, don’t you dare say somebody’s not wise in the Pit’.
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No. That is not what you are being told. You are choosing to twist the message around to suit your own position.

[Frank]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
Well that’s a whole lot of nuance you ladled on to that there post, Frank. I guess if I misunderstood, it’s up to the OP to post more clearly
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Perhaps so, but you were apparently the only one to misunderstand.

You’re also misunderstanding this thread. In the main, you are not being told “‘you evil cuntbitch from hell; scum-sucking harridan who probably spawned Satan, don’t you dare say somebody’s not wise in the Pit’,” you are rather being told “You’re bright, well-written, you have a dictionary and you’re not afraid to use it, you have an interesting perspective, but, Damn, girl*, you sure do come across as smug, arrogant, condescending, and better-than-thou. You might want to think about that.” How you get from the latter to the former is beyond me.

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[Quiddity_Glomfuster]

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
OK, let’s go over this again:

I said that this is not the place for you to vent your frustration that people IRL don’t understand you.

You said that you never said that people don’t understand you.

I gave examples where you said that people don’t understand you.

You now acknowlege that people don’t understand you, and that you have to modify your behavior accordingly, IRL.
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I thought that you were using ‘understand’ as in ‘get my innermost being’. As in me boohooing ‘nobody understands me’.

Let’s go full circle now, and I will repeat myself…this is not the place to vent your frustration that people IRL don’t understand you.

I answered a post that specifically asked about what things frustrate you about people IRL! Geeze.

There is no place in life where it is appropriate not to edit our base impulses.

Not even the Pit? I wish you people would make up your minds

Can you explain to me again where this happened? Because it’s not in either of the examples you gave.

See my reply to Frank.

[brownie55]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
I thought that you were using ‘understand’ as in ‘get my innermost being’. As in me boohooing ‘nobody understands me’.

I answered a post that specifically asked about what things frustrate you about people IRL! Geeze.
Not even the Pit? I wish you people would make up your minds

See my reply to Frank.
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I now know what to do with you, and i am betting others do too. I once thought that I had little to contribute to a board this smart. Apparently you feel the same way. Thing is I know am learning and you think you are teaching. We’ll see who is here in '08.

[kidchameleon]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
Huh?
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Oh my. Think, research, think some more, then post, not the other way around.

@Quiddity Glomfuster

The folks in the philosophy club posted links to essays by Dawkins that the philosophy club Dawkins admirers said summarized the essence of his ideas. Since most of the folks in the club were philo profs, Ibelieved them.

@Quiddity Glomfuster

I don’t go back to every thread I’ve posted to so I didn’t see the rest of the story.

Then you contradict yourself with this gem:

@Quiddity Glomfuster

I know what I don’t know. I don’t post about things I don’t know about.

and this:

@Quiddity Glomfuster

There’s another thread where people admit to treating posters differently based on their gender.

But you can’t back that up. Even if we were to count the vague OP, that’s hardly ‘people’ now is it?

C’mon, more critical thinking, less craptastic snap responses. The massage they promised for 1000 posts never came true, same as the rest of those rewards.

[Quiddity_Glomfuster]

[QUOTE=Frank]

You’re also misunderstanding this thread. In the main, you are not being told “‘you evil cuntbitch from hell; scum-sucking harridan who probably spawned Satan, don’t you dare say somebody’s not wise in the Pit’,” you are rather being told “You’re bright, well-written, you have a dictionary and you’re not afraid to use it, you have an interesting perspective, but, Damn, girl*, you sure do come across as smug, arrogant, condescending, and better-than-thou. You might want to think about that.” How you get from the latter to the former is beyond me.

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Well let’s do this. Pretend I’m the crochety coot in the corner that, every now and then, manages to display an interesting perspective. Take the perspective for what it is and don’t bother about whether I’m a coot or not. I’m actually not but that’s immaterial. I mostly cannot convince myself that anybody would have any sort of reason to care about the words I use or why I say what I say. I’m nobody. I am, as I keep saying, words on a page. I’m vapour. Picture me as a random post generator if you wish. A robot, maybe. If I spout a thought that interests you, then great.

I will be impatient with some people who debate poorly. I’m not the only one who is. Number me among the others who are and that’s fine. It’s the truth about me and there’s no point in being other than that because it would be false. I will dive into a fray if I think somebody’s getting beaten up too badly. That will also tick people off. I don’t plan to cease doing that, either. I won’t be nice to prejudiced people. Don’t expect it. And I promise I will not smile sweetly and make nicey nice when people deliberately misconstrue me or pull any of those other stunts. If you’re looking for sweet and nice, well apparently the whole entire rest of the board is except me so you have plenty others to communicate with and don’t need to pay me any mind.

[Sarahfeena]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
I thought that you were using ‘understand’ as in ‘get my innermost being’. As in me boohooing ‘nobody understands me’.
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Well, no, I wasn’t…although I think there’s a little bit of that going on, as well.

I answered a post that specifically asked about what things frustrate you about people IRL! Geeze.

Right, but I wasn’t just talking about that post. That post merely explains your behavior all over the SDMB. I now know where the frustrations you are venting are coming from, because of that post.

Not even the Pit? I wish you people would make up your minds

Let’s just say that your Pit behavior isn’t the only reason you got pitted.

See my reply to Frank.

I saw it. You said:

[QUOTE=QG]
Well that’s a whole lot of nuance you ladled on to that there post, Frank. I guess if I misunderstood, it’s up to the OP to post more clearly

As for ‘may’ - that didn’t change the interpretation.
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Frank didn’t add any nuance…he read it exactly the way I did. The OP suggested that there might be some circumstances where someone might respond differently based on the sex of the poster. That person did not admit that he or she did so, only that someone might.

[TokyoBayer]

Let’s take this one really slow, for her. I’ve often found that it’s the most brilllllllllllllllllliant people who have the most trouble with logic and all that other mindless drivel created for those stupid ones of us who were either not so fortunate to have been born with as many brain cells, or – more likely in my case – to have drowned an excess of them.
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
The OP was suggesting that maybe some people may alter their behavior based on gender.
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The OP does not support her contention, only that “your reaction or response” may be different. It’s not an admission that he/she did treat people differently.

WhyNot said that she believes that some people treat her differently because she is female.

She states that about IRL and not on-line. For posts, she’s treating it as a possibility but without stating that she’s been treated that way.

@the sexy godess

I believe that there’s a whole lot more people who would prejudge my posts in a negative and dismissive way (shrill harpie, bitchy feminist, PMSing cunt, etc.) than there are those who can’t tell my gender from context and would be positively enlightened by it. Is this belief true? I can’t tell you for sure. I don’t know if anyone’s done a double blind placebo controlled study on it, I can just tell you that in my real life experience, I get dismissed more often when people know I’m a woman up front. There’s an infuriating sort of glaze that descends over many men’s eyes when a woman starts to speak. It rankles, it does, and I don’t see the need to facilitate it.

QG, you state that people (note quantities) admitted to treating people differently. I, among others, see no one stating that. If fact, other that you, no one said that they have been (if that’s what you said, I’ve double and triple checked so many times, I’ve forgotten your comments) treated differently. If you were being challenged on another tread, then it would simply be a poor argument, but numerous people have said they are unhappy with you because you won’t admit to error.

This could have been a good chance to have proved them wrong, but if it takes spelling out something this obvious to the rest of us stupud people,[sup]TM[/sup] perhaps we could be forgiven for taking this as an indication that you are more like us than you think.

[Frank]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
I am, as I keep saying, words on a page. I’m vapour.
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I, for one, do not think of anyone who offered me good advice on Ottawa as vapor. One of the things we try to do here is foster a sense of community. I don’t think there are too many here who only think of other posters as words on a page, sitting back in their computer chairs saying, “Damn, what an imagination I’ve got!”

Perhaps you are meant to be the crochet of the community. Whatever. I wash my hands of it.

[Auntbeast]

[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]
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Look up. You’ll see a reply. I didn’t have time before. See, I work for a living. And unlike some people, I actually do my job when I’m there.

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Well, I’m kinda bored. I called out sick today for the first time this year because my daughter was up until 4am with a fever. I thought I’d do a little fingerwork for the folks that might be interested.

These are the posts by Quiddity since midnight last night with the times:
Today, 08:57 PM
Today, 08:48 PM
Today, 08:43 PM
Today, 08:29 PM
Today, 07:41 PM
Today, 07:31 PM
Today, 07:30 PM
Today, 07:27 PM
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Today, 10:58 AM
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Today, 06:55 AM
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Today, 12:42 AM
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Today, 12:19 AM
Today, 12:17 AM
Today, 12:11 AM

Assuming every reasonable hour you were away from here you were at work or sleeping. You are giving more to the Pit than you are to your job or your health.

[twickster]

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
To the lazy among us, can someone summarize QG in 25 words or fewer? Take 30 if you must.
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She has much to teach us, but nothing to learn from us.

[Larry_Mudd]

@Quiddity Glomfuster

I’m smart. I’m female. I didn’t know how smart. I was only IQ tested (to my knowledge) after I’d left university. In my life until then, I thought everybody was like me so I’d ask questions or say things that, apparently, made people ‘feel stupid’.

I’d like to offer one bit of sincere advice: Don’t put too much stock in your own intelligence, QG.

I know, it’s very easy to do – especially when you’ve gone through your entire life with other people constantly telling you how remarkably intelligent you are. It’s not entirely your fault.

Your attitude is a painful reminder of my own insufferable twenty-something self. Of course I was right! Everybody knew I was the smart one: My teachers, my peers, everybody I spoke to acknowledged this, whether it was in the form of praise or suspicious derision.

By the time I reached my twenties, this presumption allowed me to disregard an astonishing amount of good advice from people who “just didn’t understand.”

It took me many years to comprehend that my “intellectual superiority” as reported by so many independent observers really only amounted to an advanced vocabulary, an ability to string words together, and a fair capacity for logical thought when tasked with it. This is all fine, but not the be-all-and-end-all of intelligence – and I also found that the disparity between myself and my peers shrank quite a bit as we grew older.

What didn’t occur to me until it was much too late was that the advice that I neglected was almost entirely concerned with matters in which I was guided by a naive idealism rather than intellect. I think if you apply your reason to this situation you will find that it’s much the same.

To come here, of all places, and assert that you are meeting resistence because you are “smart?” Oy. If there is any mercy in the world you will have forgotten this utterly by the time you are thirty.

[Ca3799]

“To the lazy among us, can someone summarize QG in 25 words or fewer? Take 30 if you must.”

I’m so smart, but nobody can understand me. But I’m so smart. It’s not my problem that I’m so smart but nobody understands me. Repeat.

[Zoe]

(originally posted by me): I think I’ve mentioned this once before, but it amazes me that others don’t notice. You [Rubystreak] really don’t have the writing style of a female. You write like a male. It’s been interesting to watch for the differences.

twickster: Not snark – serious question. What’s your point?

It came to mind again when Quiddity mentioned being treated differently on message boards when people mistook her for a male. Rubystreak’s posts now follow a male pattern of writing as opposed to a female pattern.

Rubystreak: Zoe: I write like a man?

Not a real one.

Is that a compliment or an insult?

Yes.

I’ll take it as more backhanded sexism.

Hardly. It is studied in linguistics. Don’t confuse the scientific aspects of language with out and out calling a woman a cunt. Which reminds me. I found this jewel from your past:

Rubystreak: I don’t get all fucking bent out of shape about people like you and words on a screen. Not enough to call a stranger a dyke or a cunt.

What was it you said about consistency and morality? It really doesn’t matter. It was bubble gum philosophy anyway.

[Starving_Artist]

[QUOTE=Sal Ammoniac]
I’m not one of those who think you have nothing to offer. I’m usually interested in what you have to say, in fact.
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Same here. Quiddity is one of the few posters whose posts I will read whenever I come across one…and it’s usually with the expectation of learning something or hearing something interesting.

[Cat_Whisperer]

[QUOTE=Charger]
<snip>I’m not surprised to see her as a pit topic, but I am surprised to see this many people in agreement with the OP.
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This is probably a result of an internet phenomenon that I suspect happens frequently; the people agreeing with Quiddity are afraid to post (most of them, not all, of course), the people who don’t care don’t bother to post, and people get caught up in mob mentality (also known as a pile-on).

For the record, this is how you respond when you truly don’t care about being pitted:

@tashabot

Yay, a pitting!

Okay, carry on.

~Tasha

and then didn’t come back to the thread again.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with Quiddity. I’m not sure why some of you seem to take her posting style so personally.

I would suggest that Rubystreak’s posting style seems more like a man because she doesn’t seem to care what other people think at all, and is quite aggressive. I think most of us would agree that these aren’t two characteristics commonly used to describe women.

[Quiddity_Glomfuster]

[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]

To come here, of all places, and assert that you are meeting resistence because you are “smart?” Oy. If there is any mercy in the world you will have forgotten this utterly by the time you are thirty.
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Nope. Didn’t say that. At all. I said I don’t suffer fools gladly and people don’t like that and I’m well aware of that.

[Colibri]

This thread has radically changed my opinion about **Quiddity. ** I used to think she was merely annoying. Now I think she is both annoying and deeply pathetic.

I have rarely seen a poster with such an utter lack of self-awareness, or whose behavior so completely contradicts the attributes she claims for herself.

[Quiddity_Glomfuster]

[QUOTE=featherlou]

For the record, this is how you respond when you truly don’t care about being pitted:

and then didn’t come back to the thread again.
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Sounds like a fine plan
Thanks**, SA, Zoe**, and featherlou.