Here it is, she's been asking for it, the pitting of Quiddity Glomfuster

[Rubystreak]

@Zoe

What was it you said about consistency and morality? It really doesn’t matter. It was bubble gum philosophy anyway.

You know what? I’m glad you pointed this out, because that whole thread was a big turning point for me in my thinking about the Pit. I was actually hurt by that comment, and reflected on how I should feel about posting here and in the Pit specifically. Due to all that, I changed my mind about how to handle life in the Pit. Once you realize what the Pit is all about, you just give up on niceties like calling people a cunt. Dyke? That comes laden with more baggage, because being a lesbian ain’t something I’d use as an insult. Cunt? Obviously perfectly acceptable here, just another word like fuck or bastard. When Q.E.D. said it to me, it raised nary a :dubious: from anyone but me. So why should it raise a :dubious: from me either? Consider this a full retraction of my previous shock over being called a cunt. This is the Pit. You may have noticed that, since all that, I’ve decided to stop worrying and love the bomb. Fuck it. (Yeah, Q.E.D., this is all yer fault )

As for Quiddity’s assertion that I’m “beating up on her”: No, it started as me disagreeing with her, then she trolled and needled and I let her. When I let it fly, I’m doing to her exactly what she tries to do to me and others but just doesn’t have the skill to do, and which from her winds up sounding like a 7th grader (I sound like an 11th grader, heh). She has the same anger, the same disgust, the same astonishment at the lack of comprehension. It’s not that she’s nicer than me or less aggressive; she’s just not as good at the snark.

As for her assertions of “character assassination”: calling her names is not nice. I admit that freely and in my better moments (ie, the ones where I haven’t just been trolled, or where I’m not really angry at her), I feel bad about that. But I stand by my characterizations of her behavior in defending Liberal/not defending PRR and her wider hypocrisy on her philosophy of behavior in the Pit, and my dislike of her repeated attempts to make others feel badly about using the Pit as it is intended. I have offered numerous cites to support my characterizations of her actions, and if she can prove I am incorrect in my interpretation, I will retract and apologize.

As nasty, mean, aggressive, don’t care what people think cunt as I am, I have apologized to and reconciled with several posters with whom I was at odds: Autolycus and Q.E.D. are prime examples. Hell, I’ve even being getting along with alice lately. But all of them seem willing to reflect with me, to meet halfway, to admit with me to mutual wrongdoing. QG is completely unwilling to do that. I may be a rude asshole sometimes down here in the Pit, but she has me and most others beat when it comes to the stubborn, IMO.

[brownie55]

@WhyNot

Yes, I think you should help the moderator to do their jobs. It is very definitely against board policy to misrepresent what another poster is saying. I’ve reported people in the past for such actions, and they have received official warnings for the behavior.

And, since we’re on the topic, I’m going to give you one more opportunity to repair the misappropriation of my post in the gender thread. Perhaps the (correct) clarification that others offered wasn’t convincing enough. Well, here it is from me: I never, at any time, wrote or insinuated that I judge other posters differently based on their gender. You have repeatedly used my words to support a statement of yours which they do not support and were never intended to support. I don’t, in fact, think that I have ever judged a post on the gender of the author, and I hugely resent your implicating me in that charge. My words were not ambiguous to a single other poster that I can see. Your use of them as “cite” is bordering on the libelous. Retract your statement, at least as it pertains to me, or you *will *be reported.

Thanks for comming in and saying this. I thought you had said exactly what you are reporting here. I just misunderstood your not correcting her earlier. I owe you yet another appology.

Next time I am in Chicago, if you need a target for your shoes, I’ll volunteer.

Your fanboy,

brownie55

[Auntbeast]

@Dangerosa

But she has worked with scientists, which she really enjoyed, and they loved her… I don’t know what happened with that job, maybe it was a short term grant sort of thing. 'Course, when I’ve been loved at a job, I’ve found that the people who loved me try and rehire me as they move around or refer me to others. But maybe because I’m non-threatening and not a star.

With a name like Dangerosa? Now you know as well as I do that QG used the phrase “intimidated” not “threatened” so there you go, twisting her words around, she never said anyone was threatened by her!

As far as being underemployed, what job could possibly contain someone of such vast mental capacities that merely a handful of mortals have truly been able to “get” her? Then again, following the Dilbert Principle, people always advance to their level of incompetence.

I once had the resume of a man that was so astonishingly overqualified for so many existing jobs that he struggled to get any job. I have never seen someone with such absolutely impeccable qualifications. When I checked his references you would have thought I was calling about the christ child. Amazing guy. Unfortunately, he was one of those folks that IBM trained to the gils, paid so far out the wazoo that very few other companies could touch it. He was one of the tens of thousands laid off by IBM. You know what? No one that ever dealt with him, to my knowledge ever felt intimidated by him, thought poorly of him in spite of the fact that he was without a doubt, a world class star. And I do mean world class.

However, she did repeatedly say she’s a star and has tons of fans. I’ve had a vision of a little kid in a big star costume surrounded by a trailer parks worth of box fans. But maybe that is just me.

I like this place because of the search for knowledge beyond ones own nose is appreciated here, from the mundane to the profound. Amazing isn’t it? That we are mired here trying to help someone see something far more difficult. To loosely quote someone in another thread “they couldn’t tell the difference from those that speak slowly and those that speak slowly.”

I’m not sure what camp QG is in. It isn’t really for me to decide, but the times I’ve most been surprised in life is when I realize something about myself I hadn’t realized before. It’s rather shocking when someone who doesn’t spend nearly as much time with you as you do, can pull something out that is so damned accurate that it hurts. It sucks knowing that sometimes people can see something in you that you haven’t yet realized or have been frantically trying to hide.

I’ve gleaned a lot about myself and other peoples perceptions in this thread. I have found it to be tremendously enlightening. It has certainly given me much to think about. Maybe it is easier because I’m not the target, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion.

Heck, when I called in to work tonight, I lamented that I don’t like the noose hanging over my head, then said right out loud “well, I’m the one that put it there.” I’m certainly going to take much of the suggestions in this thread to heart. Consider my ignorance fought. And thanks everyone.

[WhyNot]

@brownie55

Thanks for comming in and saying this. I thought you had said exactly what you are reporting here. I just misunderstood your not correcting her earlier. I owe you yet another appology.

Next time I am in Chicago, if you need a target for your shoes, I’ll volunteer.

Your fanboy,

brownie55

Sorry, I was off making dinner (bratwurst, pasta salad and fresh tomatoes) and doing family type things. Please forgive me for maintaining a shadow of the life I had before the Dope.

[brownie55]

@WhyNot

Sorry, I was off making dinner (bratwurst, pasta salad and fresh tomatoes) and doing family type things. Please forgive me for maintaining a shadow of the life I had before the Dope.

I am groveling. You want blood? And dinner sounds delish!

[Rubystreak]

@featherlou

Personally, I don’t have a problem with Quiddity. I’m not sure why some of you seem to take her posting style so personally.

Yeah, well, it all started for me when she defended someone who I thought was really mean to a RL friend of mine. That is more personal than your average Pit thread situation. It’s hard to watch someone you KNOW is a nice person get the shaft, then have someone like QG come in and offer uninformed apologia for the shafter after the fact. The PRR/Lib thing DID become personal and spilled over into RL in a way that board happenings don’t often do.

I would suggest that Rubystreak’s posting style seems more like a man because she doesn’t seem to care what other people think at all, and is quite aggressive. I think most of us would agree that these aren’t two characteristics commonly used to describe women.

Huh. Ya know, I did stop caring what people thought of me in the Pit, as I said earlier. It’s very freeing. Doesn’t mean I don’t care about anyone here. And doesn’t mean I actually relish hurting people’s feelings, though I know I do it and I almost always feel bad about it afterwards. But I decided to embrace what the Pit is, for better and for worse, and express myself in strong and, uh, vivid terms. In your book, that makes me “like a man.” I guess sexism is alive and well here at the Dope. Good to know.

[GingerOfTheNorth]

@Boyo Jim

I remember. I was thinking of Jersey Diamond – she (IIRC) was a REALLY annoying Doper.

Funny to see that name come up. I recently heard that she’s divorced Joe Cool and is a lesbian.

No, I’m not kidding. She contacted another former poster to apologize for her atrocious behaviour toward him.

[Zoe]

featherlou: I would suggest that Rubystreak’s posting style seems more like a man because she doesn’t seem to care what other people think at all, and is quite aggressive. I think most of us would agree that these aren’t two characteristics commonly used to describe women.

These words are commonly used to describe the women I know who are all in their sixties and seventies! They are retired teachers and llibrarians with nothing to lose!

I’ve been a feminist for 36 years and I’m not so easily misled by cultural stereotypes.

What I’m talking about is something that’s much more objective and measurable. It can be as simple as observing the pattern of pronoun use, noun modification, self-involvment, and discussion of relationships.

And I am speaking of general patterns by gender. Nothing is set in stone.

[Quiddity_Glomfuster]

@Rubystreak

Huh. Ya know, I did stop caring what people thought of me in the Pit, as I said earlier. It’s very freeing.

I liked your post.

Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having nothing to do with acceptance or rejection, good or bad, one may well burst out in laughter.

Long Chen Pa

[Cat_Whisperer]

@Auntbeast

<snip>Then again, following the Dilbert Principle, people always advance to their level of incompetence.<snip>

Nitpick - that’s actually The Peter Principle.

zoe - that is interesting. I thought you meant more the content and tone of the posts rather than the actual construction.

Rubystreak - I’m vacillating between thinking that an argument between two posters on the Dope really doesn’t affect you even if you know one of them, and thinking that it is natural to feel offended when a friend is attacked by a stranger. I guess the latter wins out; that’s basic human nature - PRR is in your monkeysphere. Everyone else feeling personally affronted by Quiddity, probably not so good a reason.

[Autolycus]

@Quiddity Glomfuster

I liked your post.

Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having nothing to do with acceptance or rejection, good or bad, one may well burst out in laughter.

Long Chen Pa

Confucius say, man who drop watch in toilet have shitty time.

[Roonwit]

@Auntbeast

[T]he times I’ve most been surprised in life is when I realize something about myself I hadn’t realized before. It’s rather shocking when someone who doesn’t spend nearly as much time with you as you do, can pull something out that is so damned accurate that it hurts. It sucks knowing that sometimes people can see something in you that you haven’t yet realized or have been frantically trying to hide.

I’ve gleaned a lot about myself and other peoples perceptions in this thread. I have found it to be tremendously enlightening. It has certainly given me much to think about. Maybe it is easier because I’m not the target, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion.

Heck, when I called in to work tonight, I lamented that I don’t like the noose hanging over my head, then said right out loud “well, I’m the one that put it there.” I’m certainly going to take much of the suggestions in this thread to heart. Consider my ignorance fought. And thanks everyone.

My god, you are a marvelous woman. If you tell me you make homemade biscuits, too, I willl absolutely melt on the floor.

[MrDibble]

@Liberal

I can like who I like. I like you, too. I hope I don’t have to make an enemy to make a friend.

Not an enemy, just…you know when you see a friend with someone who’s really just using them? And you want to tell them, but you’re afraid they’ll blow up about it and ruin your relationship with them? And you know that in 6 months it’s going to be over, but that’s 6 months during which everyone is going to judge them by their current flame? It’s like that - QG is so obviously not a nice person, I cringe that you’d willingly associate with her. Makes me sad, is all. Doesn’t make me hat you, doesn’t make me an enemy, just sad.

[Klaatu]

Almost 17 posts a fucking day for six solid months, and that’s just here at the Dope. She probably posts for validation on other boards as well. And still “works for a living”

Somehow I am not surprised that McDonalds allows their employees to spend so much work time on the net.

[Orbifold]

Christ, but this thread is ugly and sad. Half the posters are making fun of Quiddity for posting so much, the other half seem to bitching at her for not collapsing into tears at the very sight of this pit thread. How dare she not give a rat’s ass about our opinion! How dare she use the message board without letting us determine her self worth as we see fit!

The target of the pitting is the most well-adjusted person in the room from where I’m standing.

[Quint]

@MrDibble

…Doesn’t make me hat you…

Is this an asshat thing???

[Helen_s_Eidolon]

@GingerOfTheNorth

Funny to see that name come up. I recently heard that she’s divorced Joe Cool and is a lesbian.

:eek:

[Klaatu]

@Orbifold

Christ, but this thread is ugly and sad. Half the posters are making fun of Quiddity for posting so much, the other half seem to bitching at her for not collapsing into tears at the very sight of this pit thread. How dare she not give a rat’s ass about our opinion! How dare she use the message board without letting us determine her self worth as we see fit!

The target of the pitting is the most well-adjusted person in the room from where I’m standing.

Ah, but she apparently DOES give a self-righteous junior mod’s rat’s ass about our opinions, hence this thread. Do try to keep up.

[TokyoBayer]

@Quiddity Glomfuster

I did. ** Frank** debated me on it. I quoted the OP from that thread. Others disagree, but I read what he (the OP) wrote to mean that he’d answer posts differently based on who wrote them. And I wrote ‘people’ instead of ‘person’ and apparently am scheduled to be shot at dawn. I also cited **WhyNot **who wrote something not dissimilar to what I wrote about thinking she might be the recipient of prejudicial treatment. Because she said she thought she might also encounter it.

For someone who states

I will be impatient with some people who debate poorly.

you do have an interesting style. First make an assertion which gets questioned, then ignored and then held up as a shining example of your inability to admit wrong. Finally, in response to repeated demands, and without comment or argument, you simply throw out your two cites. Your unique interpretation of the OP seems to be shared by no one, and the second was clearly (and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly) demonstrated to not support your argument. Reinforcing the natives’ contention, you’ve only admitted one error, for which you take a martyr stance, while still clinging to irrelevancy.

The funny thing is that it could have all be avoided by thirty seconds of thinking and one admission of infallibility instead of pointlessly defending something patiently stupid prior to having your feet held to the fire by bored jackals tired of your deliberate obtuseness. (Ouch, too many mixed metaphors in that sentence.)

But it was not all in vain. These few minutes have given us an understanding of what news people must feel while they stay up late at night carefully crafting razor thin questions to catch politicians’ doubletalk.

[Heffalump_and_Roo]

@Orbifold

The target of the pitting is the most well-adjusted person in the room from where I’m standing.

What room are you standing in? Are you in a psych. ward?

(apologies to all psychiatric patients out there)