Heroes 12/15/08 "Duality" or maybe it's "Duel" (spoilers)

Daphne’s time-traveling running was swiped directly from a world with super-heroes – it’s a loooong time Flash trope. Let’s just be thankful she didn’t run really fast around the world backwards to reverse time so that Lois was alive again, eh?

That anniversary party where Arthur and Linderman were conspiring in front of a roomful of people to kill Nathan-Peter was there. Unknown if he had obtained his empathy-suck abilities by then though.

A hunk of glass and a mere house fire? Pshaw.I’d be needing to see his skull cut into three separate pieces, Hiro holding the still-operating chainsaw, and those skull fragments buried in concrete on three separate continents, one of which is Atlantis. Then they’ll just find missing-twin Gray from whatever baby lab they made Niki/Tracey at.

But what about Papa Patrelli?! He can’t be dead from one little ole gunshot wound to the forehead. We never see his body again when Nathan and Strong-Fear are hanging out

Syler: Wooo! I get the voiceover- I rock!

*Peter sits near his dead dad and feels up his gun. *
“Hey, usually a bullet through the forehead puts a guy down, but gotta stay vigilant-you never know when these fuckers are going to come back to life. Hey Nathan.”
Nathan: Hey Pete. You do this?
Peter: Only after vacillating for 20 minutes, then Sylar caught the bullet and whipped the bullet in his face, thus relieving me of the ethical burden of patricide. So, you evil or what?
Nathan: We don’t do eeeevil on this show. Ambiguous morally grey evil, but not eeeeevil. Except dad. Pretty sure he was baby eating, dog boiling evil. I’m ‘do what has to be done for the greater good’ morally grey ambiguously evil. I am in no way a metaphor for the War on Terror, of course. Either you’re with me…
Peter: Like Sylar morally gray?
Nathan: He stopped being morally gray when he spliced his way through that Initech birthday last week. He’s back to baby eating dog boiling.
Peter: Damn, I was starting to like him. Or like Claire’s dad morally gray?
Nathan: Her adoptive dad who looks way more like her, or me? Now join me, and we can rule the galaxy together as father and….little brother.
Peter: I’ll never join you! Never!!!
Nathan: Hey mister high and mighty, I wasn’t the one who fired a round at Dad. I’m not cutting your hand off, either.
Peter: Still evil. Gonna punch you till you spin.

HRG: Claire, Meredith, gun up, we’re going to go help Peter. Hey, who left all the dead guys lying around?
Sylar: It’s Chris in the Morning on Primatech FM! Let’s wax philosophic, mindfuck Claire and scare Angela.
HRG: Claire gets the big gun
Sylar: I’m not your uncle, Claire. I love blondes with guns. Then I get insecure and kill them after sex. Giggidy
Claire: Still pissed about the brain rape thing, buddy.

Mohinder: Going to jab myself with Formula # 2; it worked out so well for me last time.
Peter: No, Mohinder, that’s bad. Fake powers eeevil!
Mohinder: I wanted my own abilities because I felt so inadequate. Sylar would come kick my ass every other week, it was awful! Now this is my only hope to be as cute as I am smart again.
Peter: Smart? God, I thought I was clueless-look, they only gave you the PhD because your dad was head of the biology department, Mo!
Nemesis: Vw**oomp! My vial. Later, lusers
Sparky & Knox- We’re just jellus we aren’t so spechul anymore! Trash the house!
Mohinder: Noooooo-not my vat of goooo!

Ando: I’ll be able to move in time if I scrunch my face reeeeealy tight…
Matt: What, are you super-constipated man?
Ando: No (sparks)- whatdafuckiwasthat??? Matt-pull my finger!
Matt: Zzzzth. Whoa dude! I just felt a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. Hey, you killed Alderaan!
Nemesis: You amplified Matt’s ability, and made me run into five minutes ago. Sucky power, Masahashi! It’s, like, Hello Kitty pink, too.
Ando: I’m 3-M man? I just make the specials better special? I’m Super Sidekick??? SHIT!
Matt: Basic relativity theory suggests that if Ando enhances your ability you could run beyond light speed and render a specific point in time to retrieve Hiro.
Nemesis: When you and Mohinder lived together Matt, did you read his science books in the can?
Matt: And pick me up some McDonald’s fries, back then they used beef tallow in the fryers

Sylar: Ok, company man, here’s a moral dilemma. Either burn to death in this cell, or kill Meredith, save yourself and have Claire hate you forever. Either way, it’ll make mindfarking her even easier.
HRG: Oooh, that’s good and evil, Gabriel. I’m impressed.

Mohinder: Omigawd I’m being splashed with a torrent of pink toxic goo! I’ve seen those mad scientist Bert I Gordon movies-this never turns out well for the scientist.
Everyone in the room: You’ve seen MST3K movies and you still thought you should create a vat of superpower goo and inject yourself with it? Are you shitting us???
And they all return to fighting
Mohinder: da pox is healed! Joy! Can I still go boing boing up walls and beat people up? ‘cause that was really fun.
Hiro: Speaking of fun- don’t call me Pikachu, bitch
Tracey: Ow, my nose!
Sparky: Burn!
Peter: Oh look, a last vial of powers in a jar-I’ll just hypocritically jab myself back to Herohood and fly me and Nathan to safety-hey, me not feel smart no more. Powers must be back.

Claire: Remember this hunk of glass, Sylar? I pulled it out of Peter’s head two years ago after you TK’d it into him at Mohinder’s place and killed him. Teach you to go poking around a girl’s skull, bitch. This cheerleader can hold a goddamn grudge.
Sylar: I’m not really dead. My eyes would have gone all white.
Angela: Will one of you cut this bastard’s head off and boil it in lava for God’s sake!!!??
HRG: Nope, gotta go turn the fire hose on Meredith.
Meredith: Not gonna work. Time to die noble.

Tracey:Hey, Two Face!
Mohinder: What??!@!! Aarrgh!!! Lemme see!!
Tracey: Psych! Wanna ride?
Mohinder: My moral standing is restored-I get to do the voiceovers again! And blonde chick in a convertible-giggidy!

President Worf: Next Gen represent! Sure Senator Appointed Five Weeks Ago, I’ll start a secret program to imprison the specials. I trust you.
Nathan: I absolutely can’t fly you know.

*Next Time on Heroes: Senator Nathan and President Worf imprison our specials in biohazard suits, Mo gets his cab back. *

That black guy from Africa (I don’t recall his name) is spirit-walking, I bet you five dollars. No Sylar next volume? But I like Sylar! He seems to be the only one who acts in a even somewhat logical, self-aware fashion; sure he kills a lot of people, but in a logical, self-aware way. And Angela Petrelli, of course.

Claire was even more annoying than usual this episode. I would like the glass shard out of Sylar’s head and inserted in hers - does she have any purpose on the show AT ALL any longer, except to act like a spoiled teenager who just runs around and gets into trouble?

ETA: Better recap than the show as usual,** Annie**. :smiley:

I mean Angela Petrelli is logical and self-aware, that is, not that Sylar kills her a lot.

I think Sylar and Angela have the beginnings of a beautiful friendship. Hey, she doesn’t judge!But if she wants a foster son, how about Noah? Naw, too emotionally stable. And Sylar’s about as dead as I am. The blast probably knocked the glass out of his head. Meredith should be able to walk out of it too, if she’s suppose to be impervious to her own flames. But hey, guest star. I think Isaac was the last regular to get permadead.

Claire turning into Buffy suits me well enough. If the show is moving from character based to plot driven, give her some plot.

Annie: [clappy guy] [clappy guy] [clappy guy]

(I gotta find that smilie and copy it.)

You’re all insane. Or at least the people bitching about this episode. (hyperbole may by employed here, FWIW)

I thought this episode was very, very good. I loved the horror film vibe with Sylar toying with everyone, everything from the soundtrack to the pacing to the cinematography was dead-on.

I liked that they did a housecleaning of sorts, getting rid of some annoying characters (fear power guy was just getting on my nerves).

You had some genuinely funny moments with Ando and Hiro, especially when Hiro politely decked Tracy. Come on! So many people seem to hate ANY character on the show played by Ali Larter that I would think that that scene would elicit cheers.

Keep in mind that there are still a few episodes to go before Fuller steps back in on writing, but I think that the show has really begun to turn things around lately.

And you know, this doesn’t just go for Heroes but for every show out there; if you go in with SNARK on the mind, you can find something to exploit. Tell me your favorite show, the one that you think is flawlessly written and directed and acted, and I could watch it with the intention of finding something to be snarky about and write some snarky review. If I wanted to, I could write a snarky review of anything from Macbeth to Plato’s Republic to Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter to Melville’s Moby Dick. Just sayin’.

All that being said, Annie’s recaps are admittedly pretty damn funny. :slight_smile:

Beat you to that prediction in last episode’s thread:

:stuck_out_tongue:

Also, I thought this ep was pretty good, better even than last week’s – it’s had some genuine moments of awesome:

  • Hiro socking Tracy in the face (after apologising)
  • Matt (!) ‘explaining’ Einstein
  • Lab-accident origin story! (I wonder, though, wasn’t what was in the big vat un-catalysed super sauce?)

Also, did Peter merely gain flight as his power, or did he get his old power back, and then assimilated Nathan’s?

My guess is that Peter got his original power back, meaning that he could empathically replicate the powers of those around him. But he doesn’t get to have all of his previously-absorbed powers back. And I think that (if the writers take advantage of this opportunity) maybe Peter will have some new restrictions as far as how he gains and uses powers. On the other hand, let Sylar have even MORE abilities. It makes him more dangerous, and that’s a good thing.

You really should always have the bad guy be more powerful than the good guy. There’s no dramatic tension if the good guy and the bad guy are on pretty much equal ground. Then it comes down to tactics and luck, as opposed to the grand cosmic struggle between good and evil.

Yes, that was one of the show’s main problems pretty much from the get-go – that in a one-on-one, Peter ought to be able to overcome any other superpowered adversary, on account of instantly gaining their powers (that’s why I actually thought they might go through with having Peter become a villain, but I guess he’s just too lilly-white good to pull that off believably).

I came here first thing this morning to see if Annie had a recap! :slight_smile: Awesome!

Hilarious.

Tell that to Lex Luthor.

I was amused by this installment, but it looks like Fugitives is following the tradition of the show in ripping off damn storylines from the comics. Sigh.

Or 4400. Next thing you know they’ll have an injection that takes away powers… or the power giving one will start making half the people sick.

The writers are total bastards having Angela come out with lines like, “[Because you’re] someone I could manipulate, because that’s what I do.” Anyone would think they like causing arguments on the internet.

Hee. Lovin’ the new thread title.

Usutu. According to my DirecTV crackhead, at least.

But, seriously. He’ll be getting less screen time next season than Totally Not Gay BFF got this season. Heck, he was scarcely ahead of Micah this season for screentime.

Oddly enough, the realization that the writers are actively pandering makes me like the show even less. And that happened a lot this season.

Umm… great minds, think alike? :wink:

Eh, maybe last season, but in this one she was pretty clear that her power was future dreaming.