1.) Who’s trolling? I’m always (okay, usually) 100% serious. But since you want some kind of “serious” response… It’s a fetus doll. Not a bloody, dismembered doll, mind you. Not a doll accompanied by any pro-life literature. Just a doll. A doll. A doll. So what’s the big deal? Well, obviously, because it’s a fetus and, you know, fetuses are so offensive. Or something like that. Allegedly.
2.) Could you guys and gals seriously put more thought into your insults? I mean, really. I’ve heard better insults from a 4th grader.
You shouldn’t call yourself out like that. I wasn’t going to call you out
Does it have a penis and a vagina? If not, how’s that make it different than any other doll? I mean, if we’re going to play a “Which is worse?” game, then I think Barbie dolls are worse. They actually have breasts. BREASTS, for Heaven’s sake!
If you can stop thread-shitting for just a minute, would you mind giving a non-diversion answer to this question:
Why do you think they were handing out toy fetuses to children at a time when the expected handouts are candy and other treats? Do you believe that the members of Project: Ignite really believed that children would consider the objects to be a treat of some sort?
To be this obtuse, you HAVE to be trolling. Are you REALLY saying that if little Suzy reaches into her Halloween bag to get a fun-sized Snickers and instead finds a fetus doll, that is something you are okay with?
OTOH, if we start calling these fetus dolls “fun-sized adults” the conversation sounds funnier.:dubious:
So you consider a piece of feces to be equivalent to a fetus? Really, now. You’re going to have to try a bit harder than that. Actually, never mind. You’re probably trying as hard as you are, which makes it all the more sad. Though, it does give some insight into the “other side’s” thought process.
…Right. I’ve noticed this a lot. “If you don’t agree with (not-so) conventional wisdom, you must be a troll!” Not sure how that works, but mmmkay. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
That’s precisely what I said. I’m going to guess you wouldn’t complain if it was just a “regular” doll (you know, the newborn types), so your argument isn’t the fact that some child received a toy rather than candy. Rather, it’s simply about the doll being a fetus. But again I ask, what’s wrong with that? What do you find so offensive about a fetus? Curious minds want to know.
Actually, if I might take a stab, I have a theory of my own. You can’t show a kid a picture of a fetus because then they might think it’s a baby and then grow up to be an anti-choice, religious zealot. Or so it goes.
Personally, this doesn’t offend me. The fetuses just look like little babies. Are they anatomically correct? As long as they’re anatomically correct, I wouldn’t mind. I mean, it’s weird as all hell, don’t get me wrong… but as far as finding it offensive, nah.
The only thing I would maybe find irritating is if it somehow spawned conversations that the children were not ready for. I could see parents feeling that it infringed on their plans for raising their kid. But generally I think these sort of things are good to talk about with children.
So, using little Suzy’s Halloween bag as a vehicle for delivering political or religious messages is okay with you, right?
So, let’s experiment. Lets replace the fetus doll with:
[ul]
[li]a copy of the Bible[/li][li]a copy of the Book of Morman[/li][li]a copy of the Quran[/li][li]a giant dildo[/li][li]a loaded firearm[/li][li]a copy of Hustler magazine[/li][li]an R rated movie[/li][li]a photo of Michele Bachman[/li][/ul]
Anything on that list you think over the line for our little Suzy? I mean, damn, we are not supposed to be “irrationally afraid” of anything, right? Just trying see where YOUR line is.
BTW, lots and lots of people disagree with me, I know they are not all (or even mostly) obtuse. You, wow, well, I guess…
Of course he meant to spawn conversations children aren’t prepared for, that is the intention behind this kind of indoctrination. Why else would some fundy nutter plant items of a reproductive nature on kids too young to reproduce?
The guy got exactly the reaction he intended, stirred up all kinds of shit in the minds of pre-pubescent kids whose knowledge of sex and reproduction is probably limited to rumors and misinformation at this point in their lives. Then he gets to gaze heavenward and claim innocence and persecution. Same nutjob would probably have a level 3 meltdown if his children were taught about reproduction in school at any age.
You need to protest, but from the more conservative angle, as Doug Stanhope describes:
Accuse him of being a pre-term necrophiliac pedophile. “How dare you sir, these fetuses are NAKED! You could have put little bathing suits on them, but that wouldn’t have satisfied your sick desires, would it?”
