Why the fuck can’t people get over the fact Korea’s winning? C’mon, Koreans have the homeground advantage and the whole fucking country in red, supporting with all their hearts.
Why can’t Korea win? Because we’ve sucked so much before? We have a new, first class director that used to direct RealMadrid. But that shouldn’t help too much because Korea sucks beyond all belief right? Asians should just stick to making shitty clothes, not playing football. Leave that to Europeans or South Americans. Yeah, there were plenty of bad calls. But there were calls in EVERY game, not just the ones Koreans were playing in. Why the fuck can’t people accept that a once mediocre team (but Korea’s still the best team in Asia) is winning? Senegal got pretty far but nobody thought they were bribing the refs. I’m pretty pissed off some people saying that they can’t accept the koreans as the winner of the world cup because of whatever reason they’ve conjured up. But in reality, i’m pretty sure Korea’s not going to win so you can’t put aside your worries.
So they beat everyone’s favorite Spain and Italy. That doesn’t mean you have to get all pissy and make accusations of foul play. Or throw out a player from your team because he made the winning goal against you. (cough Perugia cough).
I’m not in the best of moods right now, so try to tolerate any mistakes i’ve made or whatnot.
Hey pal, fuck you. If you think you’re not in “the best of moods” try being a godamn Spaniard like myself for a minute!
Yeah, it’s everyday we see a team get the benefit of three legitimate goals disallowed in two games, not to mention a litany of bogus offside calls!
Face it pal, Korea has indeed improved, but if it wasn’t for the blatant help from the referees they’d be watching this tournament from the comfort of their living rooms ever since the Italy game. As team, credit their conditioning, credit their discipline and credit Hiddink for having installed his total football concept, but asides form that, they remain a very average and tecnically limited side that was exposed by Italy and (specially) Spain in two consecutive thefts…erm, matches.
So enjoy your time in the limelight, but don’t ask the rest of the footballing world to give credit where credit isn’t due.
Wikkit: Thanks for sharing. Your completely random and irrelevant opinion really does in fact matter to me. You can fuck off now.
Red Fury: Yeah. FIFA’s a sham. Those refs? They’re all in fact Koreans with lots of makeup on. FIFA doesn’t bother to check for credentials or whatnot when they choose refs, and actually go out of their way to find the most despicable and blind people to make it more convenient for unethical, bribing shits like us.
Hey, Spain almost lost to Ireland as well. Those filthy Irish must’ve taken steroids for their superior physical state right? Being unhappy about a loss is one thing, but throwing wild, baseless accusations is another. Spain lost. Get over it. And stop insulting my fucking country while you’re at it.
Watch the games, dipshit, and see just how “wild” my “accusations” are.
I don’t give a shit about your country one way or another. What I do give a shit about is what’s been done to this World Cup.
No way, no how, Korea would be were they are without the blatant help from the refs.
Quite frankly it stinks of corruption in high places. Don’t be overly surprised if some heads roll soon.
South Korea has been very exciting. Their tournament run has been a wonderful story. Seeing their fan support has been just incredible. No way in hell are they just an average side. Their conditioning blows everyone else’s out of the water.
And, Spain got jobbed in the last game by the referees, and clearly should have won.
Ref whistles a PK for shirt pulling in the 3rd minute…the Koreans shirt pull in the box for the rest of the game and get nothing called.
Totti gets his second yellow for diving–when the ref was 50 meters away and there was contact in the box. No PK…but a red card instead.
Tommasi’s golden goal is called back for a non-existant offside.
Spain Game
Spain has a goal at the start of the second half called back for who knows what. Replays showed no foul or contact but just a well timed header by Baraja. No one has come forth to actually explain the call since!
Three minutes in extra time Spain has a wonderful goal called back (the whistle blew as the ball was going in the net) for the ball going over the touchline. The ball didn’t even COME CLOSE to going over the touchline on Joaquin’s great run. Morientes crushed the header into net.
Spain has a breakaway called back in the second extra time for an offside that doesn’t exist. Luis Enrique was left going one on one with the Korean keeper. Replay is very clear on this one.
Korean keeper, in blatant disregard for the rules, moves up at least a meter off his line prior to the shot and stops Joaquin’s PK. “Winning” play for Korea.
And people are PROUD that South Korea is a semi-finalist??? Please…then be proud of incompetency and corruption everywhere.
What a farce…this WC will always have a dark stain on it.
In one way the Korea/Spain match was like Germany/USA. In both games I thought that the better team lost. The difference in the USA game was that they were only beaten by a great goalie and not by the referees.
I don’t to write a long reply right now but just for two of your accusations.
For Totti, our player touched (not kicked) him AFTER we got the ball, plus after Totti display in acrobatic rolling, he lunged for the ball with his hands before even the call was made.
And our goalie in the PK went for the ball because of Joaquin’s fake or limp or whatever hell he did.
I’ll respond to rest of your accusations when i have the time.
And I don’t appreciate you not giving a shit about my country, even if you might be the asshole you’ve proven yourself to be.
RedFury There was contact between Totti and the Korean defender, but it was initiated on the part of the Korean, so, yes, it should’ve been a PK. I see you don’t like the number 3 that much ;).
don’t ask With regard to “the better team” it’s important to note that Germany realized its strengths (Kahn, its restarts) and made the best of them. They were able to force many penalties by Lewis, Berhalter and Pope resulting in those restarts, including Ballack’s goal and Klose’s post-ringer. Once they got their lead, they were content to let it hold and let the United States try to score. The US played an excellent game, but when I played soccer I learned the best team is always the one that finds its way to the back of the net more often. Like it or not, that was Germany.
Wikkit Yes, people like to talk about sports. Apparently your posts about webcomics and insects vs. bugs make you vastly cooler than the dateless wonders who talk about sports.
I don’t have the time at this moment to respond fully to those accusations, but I’ll respond to just a few.
RedFury + Big Kahuna Burger
Our player touched (no, not kicked) Totti AFTER we got the ball, and also, after Totti’s impressive display of acrobatic rolling skills, he lunged for the ball and grabbed it before a call was even made. He wanted a PK, whether we fouled him or not.
During the PK vs Spain, our goalie lunged for the ball before of Joaquin’s fake or limp or whatever the hell he did. In reality, there should’ve been a call made against Joaquin for doing that.
The other ones i’ll address when i get the time. (I might not be able to address all of them because refs make mistakes too, you know)
Oh, and also RedFury, don’t fucking insult my country. I know you don’t understand the concept of respect or decency, but still try very hard, ok?
Hey non-native. Well, I was rooting for Korea, but I’d call that victory hollow at best. I feel really sorry for the Spanish fans. The Italians I don’t feel as sorry for; the calls were at least debatable in those cases. There was certainly contact with Totti, but it didn’t look to me like a bookable offense.
But non-native can you honestly not say that the Spanish were victims of some pretty piss-poor officiating. I’m still trying to figure out why that first header goal was disallowed. Who knows what the ref saw, cuz I sure as hell didn’t see anything. But that incident aside, the ball that was called for going over the touchline, which disallowed Spain’s goal was LUDICROUS. I could even see on my little twelve-inch TV from two meters away that that ball was in. On the replay, you’d see that the ball didn’t even so much as TOUCH the line, much less come across it. I cannot begin to fathom how the linesman could’ve blown that call so blatantly.
Plus there was the questionable offsides call.
Now, the US had some bad luck, too. There was an unintentional handball that kept the ball from crossing the plane of the goal, but, hey, at least I can understand how the refs missed that.
But you cannot tell me honestly that South Korea did not GREATLY benefit as the result of some BLATANTLY bad calls.
Like I said, I was rooting for them, but it’s a hollow victory at best.
pulykamell
Like i said before in another thread, our defenders stopped playing when the whistle was blown, even though Spain keeped playing. So of course when the goalie is standing still you’re going to get a goal. Same applies for those offsides. When they were called, we stopped playing.
But I’d have to agree, the refs during the game were a bit er… off. There were a few fouls against Korea that deserved a worse calls that didn’t get them. I think because everyone expected Spain to win and not Korea that they see only the bad calls in our favor.
I did argue the point to a friend that when that ball was called outside the boundary, Korea did seem to stop playing. That said, I seem to recall the whistle being blown before any meaningful lack of action would have stopped the goal from going through. In other words, it seems that in all likelihood, that goal would have gone through.
I would still like to know what the whistle on the first disallowed goal was about. It didn’t seem like anybody stopped moving on that one, so that one surely would have counted as well.
Listen, it’s fine. What’s done is done. Soccer ain’t the first sport in the world to have controversial calls and championship games decided on bad calls. But I’d at least own up to it (which you do seem to have done somewhat). I thought Germany was especially gentlemanly in their remarks about the US.
