I don’t care how Texas is “big” (ever hear of Alaska?), or how it used to have a big oil economy, or that “Dallas” was set on a ranch in Plano. Don’t hang your state flag in with the Flags of the Nations in church, and stop putting up so many freakin’ beer signs with “Texas” in them.
Frankly, the more you talk about yourself, the more you reveal about yourself. It makes you look like a state of 3 year-olds. Even New Yorkers aren’t so self-obsessed, and at least they have the excuse that they are considered to inhabit an actual world-class cosmipolitan center.
Let’s look at some facts: The Dallas Morning News can’t even write its own front section. 60%-80% of the stories are by-lined from the L.A. Times or the AP newswire. And this is your psuedo-flagship city?
Your obsession with the Cowboys shows that you just don’t have much else to think about, apparently. It seems to go well past L.A. and the Lakers, or St. Louis and the Cardinals, or even Green Bay and the Packers. Let’s face it, Green Bay is excused for focusing on football. Have you seen the size of Green Bay? And at least Milwaukee doesn’t walk around with this snooty attitude just because the Packers are doing well, or have before, etc.
It wouldn’t be so bad if you just naturally didn’t think much about what you don’t see on a daily basis. Everyone does that somewhat. There are people in L.A. who think that Orange County (or especially Ventura County, both of which border L.A. County) is the ends of the earth. But at least they don’t go around talking constant smack about everyone else around them. Even if they think that Orange is really white, and uber-conservative, and parochial or provincial, at least they just think it and maybe comement once in a while, instead of making this enormous point of bringing up at almost any given opportunity how incredibly bitchen they are, especially as compared to those “other people.”
I know. South Fork (the ranch in Dallas) is NOT in Plano. Isn’t even anywhere NEAR Plano. If you can’t get such an elementary fact correct, it throws the rest of your slanted and inflammatory remarks into doubt.
I see from your profile that you’re from Southern California. Of COURSE nobody out THERE is self-absorbed.
Yes, Alaska is both bigger and more oil-rich than Texas. However, it isn’t really an issue to any Texan I ever met; we don’t revere our state because it’s BIG, but because it’s GREAT.
I would dispute your assessment of the Dallas Morning News but I don’t have a copy handy. Do you have a cite or did you just pull that percentage out of your ass? In any case, the front section contains many articles every day that are specific to the Dallas-Fort Worth area - surely you’re not suggesting that such stories are written in El Lay, are you? Besides, stories from newswires are a staple of virtually every major newspaper in the country. Why on earth would a paper NOT pick up a story that’s timely or particularly well-written? To refuse to do so in favor of running content simply because it’s written by staffers would be short-sighted and provincial - I’m glad my paper isn’t like that.
As for sports, there are plenty of Dallasites who care not at all about the Cowboys (including yours truly). In recent years the team has become a gang of thugs redeemed only partially by a few really good players. Oops, and here’s another factual error that casts doubt on your ravings: The Cardinals haven’t been in St. Louis since 1987. They’re in Arizona now. Get your facts straight.
Bottom line, your slanderous attacks are not only ill-considered but inaccurate. And the sooner a massive earthquake pushes your whole navel-gazing, sprout-munching, crystal-stroking, smog-soaked, superficial end of the state into the ocean, the better off the entire western U.S. will be. Grow up, you say? I say you and your fellow Lost Boys in La-La Land are the ones snorting pixie dust and hanging out with Peter Pan. I’m happy and proud to live in Texas and I don’t give a damn if that offends you just because you happen to live somewhere else.
May I be the first to say: suck my Texas panhandle.
Troy pretty much summed up all of my logical, rational arguments, except one. Suffice it to say, if you’re seeing too much about Texas while living in California, this is clue: were not exporting our culture to anyone who’s not willing to import it, you dumbass.
And I’m not sure what you’re talking about with the flags flying in churches among/at the same level as other countries flags, but here’s a fact: the Texas flag is the only flag to fly at the same level as the US flag because it is the only state to have been an autonomous country prior to becoming part of the Union.
I’m not even a hard-core Texas fan. I just find it icredibly ironic (stupid maybe?)that someone from California thinks TEXANS are self-involved!
Oh no, Chef Troy. You didn’t just start insulting my hometown. Time to throw down.
So it’s a:
Wrong stereotype (except for the superficial and smog soaked). That’d be northern California. 'Course, can’t expect an ignorant redneck from Texas to get things right. I also believe that the fair (as in mediocre) city of Houston has recently taken the worst smog prize from our fair hometown of LA.
Also, when Cardinal mentions the St. Louis Cardinals, I do believe that they are still there. They just play baseball. Oh yeah, you don’t follow any of those other sports except football.
Yee-haw, gonna go watch me some of that there high school football. So does it bother you that even though you start kids in school late so they’ll be bigger for high school football, California’s D-I league is better than anything you can come up with in Texas? Probably does.
Hahaha…that was fun. We should pick a new state to pick on so that everyone gets a turn. Maybe move east to west or west to east. In which case we start with Maine or Hawaii. Don’t know any of their stereotypes though, so maybe someone else should start.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that Houston also recently received recognition as the Fattest City in America. I completely agree that Houston is a vile place, not only for the pollution but also the horrendously swampy humidity - I’ve seen fish swim out of the water and into the air in Houston because they couldn’t tell where one left off and the other began. In Dallas, on the other hand, the last couple of years we’ve had to ship the fish to Seattle so they didn’t forget how to swim.
You were wrong on one other point: I don’t follow football either. I do submit that I think I was justified in assuming that the OP was talking about the FOOTBALL Cardinals since we were in the middle of a football-oriented discussion.
I still say that sprout-munching and navel-gazing, if not crystal-stroking, are SoCal phenomena as much as they are applicable to the Bay area. Northern Californians I think of more as cappuccino-swilling rather than sprout-munching.
Oh, and red_dragon60? The only way Ohio could kick Texas’s ass is if you put us to sleep first by talking about Cleveland.
Cardnial,
what exactly brings this about?
I am a native Texan, although I lived in California for a couple of years. I have nothing bad to say about that state. It was a fun time.
but, on behalf of my fellow Texans, FUCK YOU.
Get your head out of your ass.
so what if we are proud of our state?
I don’t see anything on your list that any other state/city can’t be acused of.
So FUCKING what if we have Texas shaped pasta and Texas shaped cookies, etc. this is a crime?
and what the HELL are you calling us rednecks for, you prick? yeah, we have more than our fair share, but so do most states, including the fair state of california.
what part of bum fuck Texas did you visit that gave you this impression?
We have just as much culture as California, dickhead.
hell, Our Art Museums are larger than yours…or maybe you don’t realize this because an idiot such as yourself doesn’t frequent places that make one think.
ok, i don’t get it. the op starts by levying (incorrect and stupid) insults towards dallas, and somehow thinks this insults the whole state? just as california is not only la and san francisco, texas is not only dallas. what about houston, san antonio, austin, and el paso? and where do you get that dallas is our “flagship” city?? it’s not the biggest city, it’s not the most important city, it’s not the capital. it was the subject of a tv show, yes, but so frickin’ what?
then he tells us that being proud to be texans makes us immature? is all pride in one’s homestate immature, or only texan’s?
hmm, cause it’s not like houston is a large or important city or anything. not that many of the country’s power providers are located in downtown houston or that the ship channel is one of the more important ports in the country. nah…
i don’t know who you know that does this, but seeing as how you don’t even live in the fucking state, i doubt you’re getting an incredibly accurate representation of how most of the population acts.
cite? last i heard la was still ahead.
at what age do you start kids in school? because around here they start at age 5 and graduate at 18, just like everyplace else i’ve ever heard of.
First of all, as a Texan having to live in New York, let me say that Texas obsession has nothing on New York obsession. There are people here who think that anything west of the Hudson River is a total wasteland (though I suppose they have a point with New Jersey). These are people that invented the phrase “flyover land.” And dear God, I hate it so. You can safely put me down in the “pro-Texas” group of posters on this thread.
However, I must note:
Uh, no. The text to which you refer in the OP made a progression: “…L.A. and the Lakers, or St. Louis and the Cardinals, or even Green Bay and the Packers…”. That is, it went basketball (Lakers), baseball (Cards), football (Packers). In context, it’s clear he’s talking about “cities with only one pro sports franchise” (apparently ignoring hockey as a pro sport). Which makes your pointing out his “error” even more foolish.
Well your information is a little bit off. To start with it wasn’t so long ago that I went to the Taste of Plano celebration which was held at South Fork Ranch. I seriously doubt Plano would hold a city festival some place that wasn’t close to their fair city. In fact I used to live on the east side of Plano and South Fork was less then a 10 minute drive from my house.
However the only address I’ve been able to find regarding south fork doesn’t have them located in Plano. Here’s one address I was able to find.
South Fork Event and Conference Center
3700 Hogge Drive
Parker, Texas 75002
Parker, Texas lies on the eastern border of Plano, Texas. So while it might not be in Plano it is certainly very close to Plano. According to their website SF is located 5-10 minutes from the Plano Centre. (Convention Centre)
Ever notice that the people who have the most negative things to say about Texas haven’t a clue what they’re talking about? Also, ever notice how they have never even visited the state?
One of my best friends was trying to decide on where to go to grad school and looked at both UT and SMU. She had all the misconceptions and stereotypes running through her mind. I convinced her to come to Dallas and take a look around. She has now been in Dallas for over a year and loves it here (BTW, she is the least self-obsessed person that I have ever known).
Actually, Angel, the OP DOES aim the smack cannon at the entire state… but Cardinal appears to be unaware that there is anything in Texas besides Dallas.
Dewey, I overlooked the Lakers thing. I admit I skimmed the sports part, because I couldn’t begin to give a shit about sports except as an excuse to get out of washing dishes on Thanksgiving Day. (What kind of dumbass idea was it to name both teams the same thing anyway? It’s like George Foreman naming all of his kids “George.”) So okay fine, you may consider my remarks about the Cardinals rescinded.
If he WAS talking about “cities with only one pro sports franchise,” Dallas doesn’t count even if you DO leave out hockey, which we have here. We also have the Texas Rangers and the Dallas Mavericks. Now granted, the Mavs aren’t in the same league as the Lakers, but I think you’re wrong about the one-franchise thing. In any case, he still started out talking about football and ended up talking about football, so I maintain that it was not unreasonable for sports-impaired me to assume he meant football.
Oh, and Bad News Baboon? it was Neurotik that called us rednecks. In fact, to be precise, he really only called ME a redneck.
How did we get sidetracked on picking ME apart? Focus your ire on the California infidel, my brothers.
Anyway, I was talking about the fictitious South Fork Ranch on the SHOW (notice the OP said it’s “set” on a ranch in Plano, not that it was “filmed” there), not the actual ranch itself. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.
Okay fine, it’s “near” Plano. Russia is technically “near” Alaska, too, but only because it’s sprawling and oddly shaped (words which apply to Plano too).
