If I had to guess, I’d guess that they don’t want the US to send billions of dollars in military aid to either side, and also don’t want their universities to invest in Sudanese companies that have ties to either side. But I haven’t asked them, so I won’t presume to know their thoughts or to imagine them hypocrites.
When I was asking around in other threads about the logistics of the arms deals, I came across information that said the US actually has cut Israel off before, during the Obama administration. So if this cite is reliable (bearing in mind that it’s a Wayback Machine capture from ten years ago), the Israelis have had plenty of time to prepare for this kind of sudden but inevitable betrayal:
Do they build their own fighter jets?
Do they build their own missiles?
Is it possible that with the US out of the picture, Israel might seek a closer alliance with China? I’m sure Beijing would love to ruffle Putin’s feathers by gaining a foothold in the region, and they certainly don’t have any moral objections to displacing minority populations.
Yes. Also, yes. Now to be sure they have leaned heavily on US and some French technology for joint developments and they haven’t ventured into the immensely expensive process of designing stuff like 5th generation fighters. Cheaper to buy from the US. But at this point they’re a pretty competent technological arms manufacturer - currently they are the world’s 10th largest arms exporter.
Hm, here’s two big things I can think of offhand: I’m not sure any of it is wise to do in either a national or global political sense, but just tossing it out there.
- At least threaten to stop the military money to Israel. Say loudly and in no uncertain terms that the killing is unacceptable and needs to stop. Basically, use the bully pulpit to bring pressure on Netenyahu.
- Similarly, instruct the UN delegation to support any ceasefire resolution (as opposed to the vetoes they’ve submitted to previous attempts more often than not).
I’m not sure if either would be effective at all, but the main two drivers of the perception of genocide support are the money and the vetoes in the UN. If your sole purpose was to convince progressives that you were doing what you could to stop Palestinian deaths, those would go a long way, IMO.
This gets back to a point I have made elsewhere. Six months ago, there were tens of thousands of college students (and other Americans) who had no real opinion on Israel who now hate Israel. Whether the motivations for that change were anti-Semitic or not, the general anti-Israel feeling is without question helping the rise of anti-Semitism. And people who first come out just to chant cease fire now are exposed to a lot of propaganda that can bring them to darker places.
In a weird, twisted way, Israel’s initial reporting of the October 7 attack and the pleas of the hostages families really stoked the fires of interest in Gaza, setting the scene for what we are seeing in campuses today. To those of us who said back in October what the hell could Hamas hope to get out of the attack beyond general terrorism, this is it. Israel and the IDF literally bulldozed themselves into the role of a bloodthirsty oppressor in front of a live, worldwide audience. Please don’t see that as me in any way thinking that any of this was a good thing, but it is a real thing.
No, not at all, where on earth did you get that idea?
I dunno about criminally ignorant , but yeah, ignorant and sometimes uncaring.
Anyone with any decent education, such as the leaders of Israel- know that Congress controls the pursestrings, not the President. And indeed, Biden has been bringing pressure.
I mean that we and our government are supplying money and arms for them. It’s not that we (or at least not most of us) are explicitly calling for the killing of more Gazans, it’s that we are continuing to help enable it.
Most of our stuff is high tech, and the IDF doesnt need high tech for Gaza. And in theory, our stuff is supposed to protect israel- and the rest of the free world- from Iran, etc. The IDF could continue it’s killing in Gaza without a USD$ in aid.
And did you want Biden to veto the aid package just passed? of the 95Billion usd, only 15billion usd went to military aid to Israel. 9 Billion for humanitarian aid- almost as much- and a lot of that goes to Gaza. 8Busd to Taiwan, the rest to Ukraine. Vetoing that bill would be horrific for world security and human lives. And Biden wanted more of that to go to Ukraine. See, the President cant just say “No Military aid to Israel until Netanyahu shapes up”. He either signs or vetoes. Not to mention the $ Biden has ordered for the Seebees to build a pier in Gaza so that the aid can actually get to those who need it.
In case you need proof that Trump will be worse (jump to @9:25 in the video if it doesn’t go there automatically):
