Hillary just lost the election.

Strangely enough, he has been somewhat measured. There appears to be a new strategy in the Trump campaign of letting the surrogates (Bannon, Ailes, et al) do the dirty work and to try to make Trump look like he’s still aggressive and fearless but at least somewhat presidential. I would imagine that asking Trump to go for days on end without trolling someone would be like asking George Best or Mickey Mantle to go without booze for a day or two. But maybe he can somehow pull it off…

Bill was in space, meeting their space-lizard overlords to kowtow and receive instructions.

It’s not a serious illness-- it’s a completely treatable one. And I don’t give a shit where Bill is-- he’s probably out chasing tail somewhere.

Just about everything about this response is just about as good as I could have expected. Well done. :smiley:

He’s lying low because he’s too much of a liability. He’s not only as big a liar as his wife but he’s rapey and cheatey and his presence undercuts the “Vote for me, I’m a woman!” aspects of Hillary’s campaign.

Yeah that was strange. Maybe a leg brace under there.

This episode has renewed my hope for a Clinton victory, but they’re probably getting ready to pull the plug on ole Hillary as we speak. They’re already warming the faithful up to it on NPR. All we need now is Obama to pat everyone on the head.

Campaigns’ pivotal moments are not usually a misstatement in and of itself but rather a statement that reinforces something about the candidate the public already doesn’t like. In an election, each candidate has a story that is told, and within it multiple chapters of that story. Somewhere along the way, and usually in September and October when more people are actually paying attention to the election, there is usually something or a series of events that paint the story in a way that becomes permanently etched in the minds of voters. For Mitt Romney, it was the 47 percent comment, which forever cemented the image of Mittens as being out of touch with the less fortunate among humankind. For John Kerry it was Swiftboat, which forever characterized something that should have been a strength - his service to country - and turned it into a narrative of a nerdy, unpatriotic, political opportunist who hardly served and supported an anti-war movement to support his future aspirations. For Mike Dukakis, it was the comical image of a bookish liberal riding around in a tank on one hand and a violent criminal on the other, which characterized him as a dangerously naive Northeast Liberal who doesn’t know how the real world works. Sometime in the next 30-45 days, something is going to paint the story, and the undecideds will start making final decisions. This race will come down to which campaign does the better job of using political ads or online posting, sharing, and tweeting to frame the candidates.

It was very badly handled by her staff.

Possibly the traditional female role of being Selfless played a role, too: I would be willing to bet that Hillary kept saying “I’m fine” to her staff, thinking she could power through the heat of the day even though fighting off a respiratory infection. (A Good Woman doesn’t stop and let others take care of her–she keeps on taking care of them. Or so says our culture.) At some point the body won’t cooperate no matter how strong the will may be.

I’m not so sure about this.

Which is the smarter campaign move:

A) Announce “the candidate has pneumonia” or

B) Announce “the candidate had to cancel two events last week due to a mild case of pneumonia, but she’s over it now and is at full strength” …?

I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought (B) might work out just fine. And of course (A) was guaranteed to have the Alt-Right running around with hair on fire, so why not avoid that if possible?

What all this ‘it was a mistake not to disclose this to the American People immediately’ opining ignores, is that pneumonia is a treatable illness that can be largely over with, in a relatively small number of days. (Not in *all *cases, of course–but, often enough.) The American People would certainly have a right to immediate disclosure of an incurable illness–sure. Of course.

But something that will go away with the right course of antibiotics? Not so much.

Sounds as though your screen name should more properly be “Straws Clutching.” A case of pneumonia renders one physically incapable of being POTUS? Really? How do you figure?

What?? Saying she’s fine when she knows goddammed good and well she’s NOT fine?? Another blatant LIE!! Is there no end to it?
:smack:

P.S. This is probably exactly what she did, said she was fine and thought she could make it.

I’m not sure why anyone would see that was a positive. Just shows poor judgment.

I have to admit, I didn’t expect to see a George Best reference on the SD.

Sadly, the idea that anti-Hillary folks WOULD use ‘she said she was fine when she knew she still felt under-par!!!11!!!’ as a slam, is not remotely far-fetched.

sigh

I’m not buying the pneumonia thing. They say she was diagnosed with it on Friday so it’s not like they found out on Sunday. She has a major issue on Sunday and so she heads to Chelsea’s apartment where there is a three month old baby? Who with pneumonia goes and potentially infects their 3 month old grand daughter? Why wouldn’t she go to a hospital? It doesn’t make sense.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going-----what poor judgment!

Pnumonia normally is bacterial and not contagious.

It is also a leading cause of death for people under 5 and a baby under 6 months of age has very little in the way of immune systems.

As I’m led to understand, after 48 hours on antibiotics (which she would have been), it is no longer a contagious issue. Furthermore, just because you don’t think something is wise does not mean that it is not the actual explanation for actions.

For me, it speaks to a bizarre election process.

How many months and $hundreds of millions down the road are we now? I’m worn out from hearing about the damn charade. She’s worn out, it’s not a surprise.

UK 2015 election, 5 1/2 weeks from dissolution of parliament to voting day was quite enough.

I can totally see Clinton trying to power through what she thought was just a cough, especially if she thought it was due to allergies. In my late-20s/early 30s, I had a cough creep up on me that I ignored for around 2 weeks or more until I was feeling awful and got diagnosed with pneumonia. She’s such a reported workhorse and she had a campaign to run that I can see her not wanting to bother telling anyone she wasn’t feeling well until it became an issue. Pneumonia sucks to have even if you catch it early

And it was reported in one of the new articles that several of her staff members have been sick as well, so it’s probably been one big bugfest in that campaign.

No doubt Trump and his people are worn out as well (at least those who have stuck with him through most of the campaign)