I think his message was pointing in a different direction. More like “It’s all the Republicans’ fault. Vote Democrat.”
Again, not a message you’re receiving but don’t be surprised if some people hear it.
That’s not impossible at all. The PR guys will come up with a cover story and Biden will step aside gracefully (into a comfortable staff job later). It would be a strong ticket that the Republicans would have a tough time matching - perhaps Romney/Gingrich.
Crane
You are aware that wasn’t the idiotic fantasy being discussed, right? The one being discussed is…
a. Biden steps aside
b. Obama demotes himself to veep
c. Hillary runs for president with Obama as veep
d. Hillary steps aside in 2016
A girl scout troop couldn’t successfully pull that one off, much less people throwing around the kind of money and ego you get at the top of US politics.
-Joe
Yes, it is. Your scenario (which, as noted, isn’t the OP’s) is not impossible in the sense that it does not violate the laws of physics or anything. It’s impossible in that there is no chance it will happen because it violates human nature. This is the apex of Biden’s career. He’s never going to be president, so VP is the top job for him, and he’s not going to give up the possibility of four more years of that. Any benefit Obama would get from swapping Clinton in for Biden would be minimal anyway.
For Obama to step down from the Presidency would be an admission he can’t handle the job. And if he makes that admission, why would anyone think he’s qualified to be President in 2016? Or why would he be qualified to be Vice President under Clinton? A Vice President is supposed to be somebody who’s ready to step into the job of President.
I wondered during the primary if they would cut some deal of alternating terms as President and vice-President for her support.
Do we really not learn from history? I believe Gerald Ford floated that bullshit to Ronald Reagan in 1976.. and was doubly humiliated when Reagan turned him down..
Makes the current Prez look weak as shit..
For me? The answer to that question is yes.
For the country as a whole? The answer to that question is no.
And I neither credit Obama for the former, nor blame him for the latter.
If this is open to other takers, I’ll take your bet.
$100 to you if Obama is inaugurated in 2013, $100 to me if he isn’t. I phrase it this way to get rid of any possible objections about stolen elections or hanging chads. I don’t care who “really should have won.” But I’ll bet you that Obama isn’t the guy getting so we have a worn in as President in January 2013.
$100. Do we have a bet?
Yeah. All those people in Central America just keeled over from bad colds. Yep.
Bloomberg’s trying to take advantage of twenty-twenty hindsight. I’m not impressed.
…the Republican Congressmen who hold their breath and turn blue till they get thier way. How I wish Obama would just spank them and send them to bed without dinner. That’s where I’m disappointed in him.
The OP premise makes not sense unless you want the Dems voted out and to kill off Obama’s political carrier.
I think most of the Obama voters who are disatisfied with Obama are disatisfied he didn’t push for more health care reform, has actually tried to negotiate with the terrorists blocking congress, etc. I would be surprised if most of the disatisfied Obama voters had a moment of clarity and decided that slashing taxes on the rich, cutting services on the poor, enabling the banks to have even less control, want the repeal of health care, think its a good idea to cut social security, ad nausem, and decide that going for a Republican President (who is likely to replace at least one supreme) is better than voting again for someone that didn’t go far enough. YMMV
You might get better ideas from reading better stuff. Just a suggestion.
The second part is good.
The silly thing that really hacks me off is that during a debate he ridiculed Clinton’s idea that everyone should pay for a health care plan like Social Security, and took her stance when he was elected.
That meme drives me nuts. He did not force anything through and it was popular when it was passed. Fox has had its workers spreading out to all stations making that claim over and over until people buy it. It was not that long ago. It had a strong majority. That is the only way it could have gotten through.
If you’d read the link, you might realize this isn’t talking about Michael Bloomberg the politician, but Bloomberg the news service; and it’s not an opinion but a poll result.
Better than the Washington Post? What would you suggest?
Pleased to meet you – hope you guess my name . . .
But none of us appear puzzled by the nature of your game.
Knew that. Still not impressed. Now is not Then.
Yup, and he’ll be all surprised when he starts the next thread and everyone thinks that one is a thinly-veiled “I don’t like Obama, and he’s not going to get elected, but I’m going to concern troll again anyway” rant.
-Joe
I told you upthread to knock it off with the concern trolling accusations. You don’t have to take his motives at face value, but accusations of trolling are frowned on and calling it concern trolling makes it excessively personal. This is a formal warning: don’t do it again.