Do you then withhold love from those who have not “come to Christ”?
No.
Then when, on this Board, have you shown love to non-Christians, or even those who disagree with you? Telling people they are sinful is not perceived by them as love.
CJ
Really? Then why do you completely ignore it? I have yet to see any of the Love discussed in the Scriptures coming from you. Others have already pointed that out to you. So, I ask now: why do you ignore the Love mentioned there?
Here’s what I see in the Scriptures regarding that <ahem> assertion:
So, who do you think you are now? God the Father, God the Son, or Paul? Your first duty to EVERYONE is:
Not jack there about judging folks. Oh, wait…there is something in the New Testament about judging folks!
Pay especial attention to the following, please. I’m even putting it in bold for you.
Instead of telling us all we’re doomed, why don’t you just try living the Love that Jesus and his Apostles preached? Perhaps then, your good example (as opposed to your current example) of God’s power in someone’s life might cause someone to be impressed.
Now, I really am curious for an honest answer from you to the following questions:
[ul][li]Have you read the entire Bible through?[/li][li]Have you tried to interpret it on your own?[/li][li]Do you have any theological grounding?[/li][li]Have you read any of the scriptures the faiths you condemn hold to be sacred?[/li][li]Do you know what a debate is?[/li][li]Do you know what logical fallacies are?[/li]Do you know what a lie is?[/ul]
Coding errors:
[ol][li]Left out the initial italicize tag in one place (it’s obvious).[/li][quote]
Our first duty to the lost is to try to win them to Christ, then after they’ve come to him, correction and exhorting in love should be done if necessary.
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should be preceded by:
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Is there any point in pitting His4Ever anymore?
She refuses at times to acknowledge questions and doesn’t seem to give the answers anyone would want.
She can’t even seem to open her mind the tiny crack it would require to consider the differing ideas.
Have you even read it? “In a word, there are three things that last for ever: faith, hope and love, but the greatest of these is love.” Love trumps faith. Your first duty is to love, then you worry about faith. Jesus said it himself, the two most important commandments are love God and love your neighbor. Not convert your neighbor, not condemn your neighbor and not judge your neighbor. LOVE your neighbor.
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*Originally posted by Monty *
Now, I really am curious for an honest answer from you to the following questions:
[ul][li]Have you read the entire Bible through?[/li][li]Have you tried to interpret it on your own?[/li][li]Do you have any theological grounding?[/li][li]Have you read any of the scriptures the faiths you condemn hold to be sacred?[/li][li]Do you know what a debate is?[/li][li]Do you know what logical fallacies are?[/li][li]Do you know what a lie is?[/ul] **[/li][/QUOTE]
Yes.
Yes, and I’ve also read Christian books. God has answered some of my questions through Christian authors.
I have no theological schooling
No, the only reason I would do so is to compare to what the Bible says.
I believe so.
Not familiar with this term, I don’t consider the Bible to be a fallacy if that’s what you’re getting at.
Yes.
Don’t you think it’s time this thread was put to bed??? I’m done answering questions in this thread. My answers won’t please or satisfy you anyway.
Merry Christmas. †
Ladies and gentlemen, His4Ever!
(applause )
She’ll be appearing on a message board near you soon!
Could’ve fooled me, what with your hit & run (and miss) style of quoting from it.
In other words: No, you haven’t tried to interpret it on your own.
No surprise that; however, you still deign to “teach” theology to the many people who actually do have some such grounding.
Right. God forbid you actually read the stuff to see if what you’ve been told about those beliefs is true or to attempt to understand where those folks are coming from. Better to just judge them, hey?
If so, then try debating for real some time.
Where TF did I assert the Bible’s a logical fallacy? Huh? Tell me! What I was getting at is was a question to you if you knew what constituted a fallacy in logical discourse, aka debate.
Then you must know that you just lied again regarding my query about logical fallacy.
should be:
But why do you still find it necesary to exhort, reprove and correct, after all of this and the pit threads?
I have enjoyed some of these debates, but i do not need to come here to be told i am a hellbound sinner. Most of us have spent time in churches, enough to be told this at least twice. Why don’t you tell us what Jesus has helped you with?What has your church affiliation helped you with, that another branch of Christianity could not ? What do you hope to accomplish here, His4Ever?
Whatever happened to “O tell to earth’s remotest bound, God is love!*”
*Christmas Cover of the Salvation Army’s magazine War Cry.
I’m sorry to single you out, anya marie. Please understand I’m not intending this only to you.
Because other people continue to exhort, reprove, and correct her, perhaps?
Good call Andros!
I see now it was a bit stupid , but had to ask. Do you suppose she might have had better luck if she had not told us we are going to hell, straightaway, after her debut?
As far as I can see, people reprove and correct His4Ever because she is a liar and a bigot who spreads very evil lies about Mormonism, Catholicism, liberal Christianity (ie, Christianity the way Christ would practice it) and homosexuals. She attacks these people, which thus justifies returning the favor to her.
What has anyone on this board done to deserve the scurrilous attacks HerOwn4ever has launched across these forums? My God, she has another thread in the GD saying that its “traitorous” to show sympathy or kindness to people in need, unless you also tell “by the way, you’re a worthless fucking sinner whose gonna toast in the great fire pits of God’s hate unless you suck up to his petulent and irritable son, Jesus.” At least, that’s how her “gospel” comes across.
I disagree with the “Biblical” teaching that womenfolk should be quiet and dare not teach anything to males. It’s mysoginistic and evil. However, in His’ case, it makes a whole lot of sense.
BTW, Anya, good churches don’t need to scare people into faith by threatening them with “you’re a sinner and are going to go to Hell.” You can go to a good church your whole life and never see the pastor/minister/priest stoop to such a base and pathetic level to sell his wares.
Because of His4Ever’s demeanor, I irrevocably renounce my faith in any deity.
A logical fallacy is a piece of logic that is faulty. For example, if I say that because all sharks have teeth and live in the water, that because someone got bit by something in the water it must be a shark. I think…I just woke up, okay? Nobody told me I’d have to be thinking this early…
You new folks, just so you know: this is His4ever’s “I’m leaving”. She’s said it several times in lots of threads and only then comes back for what is, to her, a witty reparte or what is commonly translated as “don’t you see I’m never going to learn?”
She’ll be back yet.
Please keep your promise for once.
Well, of course. In this one thread she’s threatened to leave five times:
[ul]10-05-2002 08:28 AM
Guess I should probably do what it says in Matthew and shake the dust from my feet and move on, but don’t know if I’m ready to do that yet.
10-07-2002 06:13 PM
Seriously thinking that I ought to leave you folks alone and move on.
10-08-2002 07:50 AM
Goodbye.
10-11-2002 05:21 AM
This is my last post in this particular thread.
12-19-2002 05:20 AM
Anyway, I don’t really have anything further to say. This is pointless, we’re not going to see eye to eye.[/ul]