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This is a bit of a sore point with me at the moment - see this thread - but in many organisations over here (U.K.) this behaviour would be a formal warning at the very least, and a prime excuse for firing the guy (‘We do not tolerate racist behaviour’). Since he’s proved himself a complete fuckwit in other circumstances, then it’s the boot and good riddance.
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What behavior? Calling someone a Hitler, or proving oneself to be a complete fuckwit? Oh how I wish I could have people fired for being complete fuckwits.
No, actually, I don’t. I wish I could retrain them and give them an IQ boost.
Calling someone a Hitler? How is that racist? Got a problem with white people? Well, insulting white people is pretty much de rigueur these days. Can’t imagine how someone would get in trouble for insulting whities, in this day and age. It’s all about stickin’ it to “the man.” We all know who that is, let’s face it. It’s not Jews. It’s the other white meat.
[QUOTE=Jackmannii]
Well! Color me polka-dotted and ship me to Latvia (as elucidator might say), but I for one never suspected for a moment that our late lamented Hasidic smiley was actually code for the Internet Jewish Supremacy movement.
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Get broadband internet, apparently yours is a bit slow keeping up.
[QUOTE=kambuckta]
At work today, a new bloke (who has proved himself to be a complete fuckwit in other circumstances anyway) addressed her as Hitler. Yes, he is a moron.
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Does your employer have up to 100 employees?
Has the moron been there for less than six months? Is he on a contract? Probation?
She’s not being sensible. Round our way we don’t file such complaints. Moron stuff is tabled and noted at management meetings. Then we slide the moron out the door for “operational reasons”.
Your employer has about six weeks to act, best guess.
Dude, I’m very very goy, have extremely dubious Jewish ancestry on my father’s father’s side, have never been so much as inside a synagogue in my life, & I still can get a little offended on behalf of my probably non-existent Jewish ancestors. It’s a matter of how she sees herself, even if it’s a small part of how she sees herself.
And considering Hitler killed assimilated/converted Jews, I don’t think you have a leg to stand on.
That said, depending on the context, I might have sought a better reaction to being called “Hitler.” But I get why she wouldn’t.
[QUOTE=bathsheba]
Does your employer have up to 100 employees?
Has the moron been there for less than six months? Is he on a contract? Probation?
She’s not being sensible. Round our way we don’t file such complaints. Moron stuff is tabled and noted at management meetings. Then we slide the moron out the door for “operational reasons”.
Your employer has about six weeks to act, best guess.
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Most workers here are employed as casuals, so regardless of the 100/cutoff as per the new IR legislation, can be terminated without reason and with no notice anyway.
This guy will probably get his marching orders soon regardless of the case I brought up in the OP. He IS a dickhead, a couple of stubbies short of a six-pack you might say. And I won’t be sorry to see him go.
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
No, it was your innocent counter argument, “gee whiz, I’ve never noticed this.” Yeah, like you really haven’t noticed. Didn’t we have a Jewish smiley for the longest time? Did we have an atheist smiley, a Catholic smiley, a Muslim one? A Buddhist one? A gay one? a black one? Of course not, why should we? And why should we question why there was a Jewish one. Are you an anti-semite?
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All I can say is ‘What. The. Fuck. Are you talking about?’
I’m still waiting for some sort of (non-insane) answer as to what “internet Jewish supremacy” consists of …
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
I’m not arguing in favor of Jewish Internet Supremacy. Doesn’t exist. I don’t like the innocent “hadn’t noticed” argument. Hadn’t noticed what, Jews? Please. Yeah, Jews are all quiet and stuff. They have nooooo influence in America disproportionate to their percent of population.
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So you state as a fact that “internet Jewish supremacy” doesn’t exist, yet it offends you that I haven’t noticed its existence?
[QUOTE=Malthus]
I’m still waiting for some sort of (non-insane) answer as to what “internet Jewish supremacy” consists of …
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Take it up with pizzabrat. I already said I don’t believe there’s a Jewish internet supremacy. I just think it’s stupid to say “hadn’t noticed” when someone mentions Jews are over represented in certain areas. Like Israel getting way more US aid than their little postage stamp country would seem to require, while Sudan, for instance gets far less.
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
Take it up with pizzabrat. I already said I don’t believe there’s a Jewish internet supremacy. I just think it’s stupid to say “hadn’t noticed” when someone mentions Jews are over represented in certain areas. Like Israel getting way more US aid than their little postage stamp country would seem to require, while Sudan, for instance gets far less.
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Non-starter. Israel is an ally, and a beacon of democracy in the region, while Sudan is a horrifyingly evil regime.
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
Take it up with pizzabrat. I already said I don’t believe there’s a Jewish internet supremacy. I just think it’s stupid to say “hadn’t noticed” when someone mentions Jews are over represented in certain areas. Like Israel getting way more US aid than their little postage stamp country would seem to require, while Sudan, for instance gets far less.
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What a wonderful collection.
The alleged over-representation of Jews wasn’t at issue. So we are back to alleging it is stupid not to notice something you claim doesn’t exist at all.
Moreover, are you of the opinion that “Jews” equals “Israel”? You appear to be.
Finally, equating Israel with the Sudan is very silly.
[QUOTE=Malthus]
Moreover, are you of the opinion that “Jews” equals “Israel”? You appear to be.
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Okay, I’m pretty sure Israel isn’t a predominantly Amish state. But please, fight my ignorance. Why shouldn’t I associate Israel with Jews?
Also, I’m not equating Israel with Sudan, I’m wondering about how much money we spend supporting each, and why we should. Canada is our ally, how much of our foreign aid budget goes to them?
Again: Israel is our ally, while Sudan is a horrifyingly cruel totalitarian regime. I’m sure we give more to the Israeli government, but we probably give more in care packages to the Sudanese people directly. Is that unfair to Israel, or is your analogy just broken?
Canada is not right in the middle of a cluster of nations whose stated goal is or has been to wipe them off the map and kill their men, women and children indiscriminately for the pleasure of watching their blood spill on the ground. Those are not my words, BTW. When come brack, bring decent analogy.
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Again: Israel is our ally, while Sudan is a horrifyingly cruel totalitarian regime. I’m sure we give more to the Israeli government, but we probably give more in care packages to the Sudanese people directly. Is that unfair to Israel, or is your analogy just broken?
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We probably give Sudan more care packages than Israel? How nice of us.
Now you’re just making shit up. What cluster of nations have this as their stated goal, and why on earth would they?
[QUOTE=levdrakon]
We probably give Sudan more care packages than Israel? How nice of us.
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What am I, an expert on American aid?
I’m not convinced that your argument–if there is one, and it’s getting hard to tell–is worth the effort of proving something that most people are aware enough to understand.
Well Jackmannii as I give up on this trainwreck I must echo your thoughts.
Otherwise reasonable people stating that Jews should just get over the Holocaust, using stereotypes of Jewish materialism, claiming that there is a “Jew Internet supremacy” thing going on and that it is “taken for granted” and now the Jews=Israel combined with implications of Jewish control crap. And the posters of this are shocked, shocked I say, that anyone would take offense at this ignorant shit. Next we’ll be quoted the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Yeah, we’ve come a long way since I got into a fight with someone twice my size for calling me “Jew boy” as I walked on campus. And farther since my father used an Italian alias to go on sales calls. But we’ve got a long way to go and the fact that this unapologetic bile* comes out so easliy and so cluelessly in a crowd that is hardly representative of the stupidist and worst that this country has to offer really gives me great pause.
*Yes, sapo your apology is noted but so is how long it seemed to take to get that one was indicated and the lack of evidence that you get it yet, really.
