Homeland: Season 2

That ending last night. HOLY SHIT.

I can’t imagine where they’re going to go from here. I really hope they don’t drag out Saul knowing about Brody too long. That would be ridiculously contrived.

Is this going to be the official thread? There’s another one already to which I posted this this morning:

Merged duplicate threads into a single thread for the whole season.

I didn’t understand how that was going to work. He wanted Brody to convince the Secretary of Defense to give the Israelis this bunker buster. But how exactly are they going to do that behind the Commander-in-Chief’s back?

I found it a bit odd that a new Congressman like Brody would be invited to sit in the war room during a top-secret assassination attempt, no matter how much the Vice President likes him. I wonder if it’s even possible to send an unsecured text message to an outside number in that room.

I agree that Saul won’t tell Carrie about the video right away. He’ll try to play his own cat-and-mouse game with Brody.

Can someone remind me of how the suicide video got sewn into the bag so I don’t have to rewatch las year’s finale?

It’s making me nervous that Saul found it because Mandy Patinkin never sticks around in a good series and what if they kill him off so he’s the only one who knows the truth?

Patinkin’s character will be killed off. The writers just don’t know it yet.
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Thanks! I swear I looked for a thread (two pages) and didn’t see ThelmaLou’s.

Me too. I’ll fanwank that it happened so fast, there wasn’t time for anyone to look around and say “What’s he doing here?”

Did you notice how much the room looked like the situation room we saw when the Osama raid was going down?

kbear, I don’t know how the video ended up in the bag, or why the bag was with the Hezbollah commander instead of with Abu Nazir. I also don’t know how Carrie knew where to look – which floor, which room, in that warren – or why they didn’t just ask Fatima to pack up whatever documents she could find.

For me, this is one of those shows like Breaking Bad. It’s easy to overlook the inconsistencies and unlikely contrivances when the performances are so good and the action is so intense.

This is what I am expecting :(… great episode though - loved Carrie in it and Saul.

I don’t think we are supposed to know at this point how the video got in the bag.

What I remember, which may not be completely accurate, is that Brody had left the video in a location where it would be found after he detonated the vest. Wasn’t it a known drop point, like under a bench in a park somewhere? And then after he didn’t detonate the vest, and after he shot Walker, he went back to retrieve the video and it wasn’t there.

Does that sound about right?

Brody isn’t admitting to anything on the video, since he hasn’t committed any terrorist acts. He can claim that he made the video under duress, and that he had no intention of doing any harm. This will allow Saul (who won’t buy it) to bring Carrie back into the agency to try to find out what he’s really up to (or not).

Excellent episode: the chase through the apartment building was nerve-wracking and reminded me of a Bourne movie. The run-up to the attempted hit on Nazir, and Brody’s dilemma were great. So can’t the NSA get the phone records of everyone in the room? Or won’t it occur to anybody that the warning came from there?

Here’s the transcript of what Body said on the video:

He might not include specifics about what he was planning to do, but what he says is pretty damning nonetheless. If the tape were released, at the very least, his political career would be over in an instant.

As far as saying that it was made under duress, it’s clear that he made the tape after he got back to the U.S. Not only is the tape going to be date-stamped, but he’s wearing his service uniform. Did he have that with him in captivity? Not to mention that it was probably made for him after he was rescued and could be identified as such, and he’s probably wearing ribbons or medals that he only received after his rescue.

I can’t believe that anyone would buy the duress excuse. That would be beyond the level of acceptable plot contrivance for me.

That’s how I remember it too. I think it may have been Walker who picked up the video, but I could be wrong.

The life-expectancy of older mentor characters is usually pretty limited in any case.

We never found out who the mole is in the CIA, did we? They seemed to have dropped that plotline, or at least, the characters seem weirdly unconcerned about figuring out who it is.

Perhaps, then, they’ll keep it under wraps and attempt to find out what Brody is up to and who his handler is before they bust them all.

Yeah, I think that’s more likely. I can even see them letting Brody know that they know and then forcing him into a double agent role. Or I guess he would be a triple agent by now.

That would be genius and would ramp up the tension even more, especially if it was written with the idea that we don’t know for sure who he’s really working for.

Here’s what Alex Gansa said in an interview last year:

I had real trouble with that. At the very least, they would have no trouble whatsoever tracking down that exact text message sent at that exact time to that exact number after the fact. I really hope they address that.

That took me out of the story for a moment, too, but in more of a “How does he have a cell phone in there??” way. I can’t imagine that room being any less secure than your average sensitive compartmented information facility, and usually you can’t bring electronic communication devices into rooms like that.

According to this, even Obama has to leave his phone outside the Situation room.

On the other hand, I can’t imagine they pat down the higher level VIPs, so I guess we can imagine that Brody just kept his despite regulations and then no one noticed him messing with it as all eyes were on the monitors.