Who was in the car? ("Homeland" spoilers) [Edited title]

I couldn’t really tell - but it’s the only character that looks remotely like him.

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Its not Dar is it?

Ok, so this thread is about Homeland season four episode 11 and

That was definitely Dar Adal in the car. Why? I have no idea.

Pretty stupid ending IMHO. She gets in the way to stop Quinn and then is about to shoot King of the Terrorists herself a minute later. I suppose she could have been concerned about collateral damage of a bombing but since when?

This definitely was a filler episode. We thought the same thing. She didn’t want him to kill the guy then she was going to and get herself killed in the process. Carrie does stupid stuff, but this was beyond the pale.

And nobody around her saw her raise the weapon? She’d have been beaten to death in about two minutes. I also had to take issue with the CIA Director calling the Chief of Station on an unsecured phone line to discuss sensitive issues. That just doesn’t happen IRL. Also, Quinn busts a cap in the contract guard’s leg; then they wheel him into the Consulate, which, through the Magic of Film is suddenly transformed into a hospital ward. Or did I miss something?

I took the point of the scene (Carrie keeping Quinn from killing Haqqani, then attempting to do so herself) to mean that Carrie was concerned first that Peter Quinn should live. She was willing to die, herself, but she wasn’t willing to see Quinn killed.

In part this shows her sense of responsibility toward those who work for her. And in part, I think, it shows that Carrie does have personal feelings for Quinn (even if she’s not really in touch with them).

I’d assume that in real life, American Consulates (particularly in less-friendly nations) would have fairly extensive medical facilities inside. Would it make sense for them to be routinely having their personnel treated in Pakistani facilities?

An embassy like Islamabad would probably have a doctor on staff who would be regionally based, but certainly not an operating theater and ward like was shown there. People who are seriously injured are medevaced to the nearest civilized hospital.

Even in a nation such as Pakistan-nominally an ‘ally’ but actually not particularly friendly to American interests…?

That surprises me. I’d think the USA would think having (say) a full-fledged operating facility and ward of modest proportions to be cost-effective, given the number of Americans that work in diplomatic jobs there (in the embassy itself and in consulates).

More to the point: I’ll bet I’m not the only Homeland viewer who would have assumed that (and thus wouldn’t have been surprised to see the victim of Quinn’s patented 'shoot 'em without hitting bone or arteries’ gunplay to have been treated on the grounds of the embassy).

Ok - there are certainly plot issues, but I really like this show so I choose to ignore them :slight_smile:

I’m not sure how subtle Quinn’s actions were either in placing the bomb.

Also - I didn’t know until yesterday that Carrie’s dad (James Rebhorn) - who I’ve seen in tons of places (“there’s that guy again”) died earlier this year IRL.

I can’t wait for Sunday

Plot holes aside, I thought it was a pretty gripping episode in a very redemptive season. I’m a Quinn fan so I love that he is getting a bigger storyline now.

Also, Claire Danes’ acting in the scene where she finds out her father died was fucking incredible.

Yeah, that was a huge WTF moment!

What I’m not clear on is the two Pakistani government figures. Don’t know their names, but the man and the woman in the car when the woman told the man to “wait 10 minutes” before calling in for help last episode. I thought she was subordinate to him, but it seems like the other way around. I’m just not clear on how they fit into the hierarchy of government/military. I guess she is civilian and he is military…?

That sounds right. Khan talked about “having” a certain number of troops and Qureshi is spook all the way. Although I guess she could be military intelligence. I don’t know who fits where in those hierarchies.

It’s intriguing that Quinn nearly blew Dar Adal, his former boss, to kingdom come. Is this some sort of long game? And did Saul’s kidnapping play a part in it?

This season had a slow start, and I wondered if I would still like Homeland after Brody’s demise, but it’s been a fun ride.

Who is Brody. :slight_smile:

This particular episode felt like a bunch of odds-and-ends that were cobbled together to form an episode. The story seemed very disjointed and the big payoff scene was full of “huh? Who?” I am hoping that next week’s episode ramps up the tension again and that the story makes much more sense.

Quinn’s shooting the Marine is pretty hard to walk back. No matter what happens, he’s going to have to answer for that.

I know. I really gotta quit obsessing over minor stuff. Can’t imagine what it’s like for a lawyer to watch The Good Wife.

Sherrerd: Even Moscow didn’t have a medical facility during the USSR days. I’ve been to a lot of embassies and never seen anything other than an office for the NP or doctor assigned to a post. Local hospitals are really not an option either, as sanitation is a huge problem. In Lisbon we had a nurse. For physicals or problems, we went to a British doctor who lived and practiced in Lisbon.

Remember, in the show, they just finished driving off an armed assault on the embassy. Presumably, hundreds of soldiers have been airlifted from bases in Afghanistan to reinforce the people at the embassy. Maybe they brought a MASH unit and all the equipment along?

What kind of help did Quinn need from the girl in the hospital?

To organize the protest, most likely.

Yeah. One wonders: did Quinn at least hint to her that she should stay on the outskirts of the protest (away from where he planned to plant the bomb)…?

(And thanks for the information in your earlier post. Interesting.)

Quinn told her, “It’s time to go” when he passed her after planting the bomb. Shortly after she convinced many of the other (Aayan) protesters to run away, leaving only Haqqani supporters and some soldiers. And Carrie.