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Ok, I’ve seen a couple people throwing around variations of “You’re a moron.” Since this isn’t the Pit, that isn’t allowed. So stop it. Now.
Orion, learn to quote. Now.
David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator
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As I noted in the “Ethics of Homosexuality” thread, I had to rub my eyes a few times after reading Boomer’s post, but I’m impressed.
Actually, although some existing domestic partnership legislation and/or benefits from companies are exclusively for same-sex couples (the argument being that opposite-sex couples have the option of getting married if they want to), there has been some legislation that also affords those benefits to family members; i.e., “My aging mother lives with me, can I get her on my health plan?” kind of thing. Personally, I really like this idea.
Esprix
Orion, I’m not sure exactly what planet you’re on, but there is a highly disproportionate number of gay men and women working in the fashion, entertainment, music, dance, art, television and movie industries. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn’t mean it’s not true.
(Oh, and by the way, wearing an earring in one ear to signal you’re gay? First of all, we started it, and second of all, in case you don’t look around, most guys wear their ears pierced. Does that mean they’re all gay?)
And Sqrl’s point was, even if there weren’t such a large percentage of homosexuals in these industries, there are at least 10% in every industry, so no matter what you do, you’re going to be contributing to the gay agenda - every movie ticket, every restaurant, every sporting event, you’re just giving us more money for our vast, unstoppable homosexual social machine! :eek:
(I know, I know, I should stop feeding the troll, but it’s like a train wreck, people! I can’t help myself!)
Esprix
But David, he makes it so eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy!
(Plus it’s so truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue!)
{sigh} OK, OK, you da boss…
Esprix
Read this
You are exaggerating a lot here. By the way, I don’t think that there are many gays that are into sport. Gay men are into theater, hairdressing etc.
This will never change my view.
You seems to have lost a lot of ammo Assprix.
Don’t ya just love it when they argue with themselves? Saves so much time and trouble on everyone’s part.
Not a big surprise, really. Sort of sad, but if you insist on basing every opinion of yours upon blind assertions, then it’s unlikely that anyone will be able to do anything to change your mind.
Wow, you like changed his name until it was an insult. That was like, really witty dude. He’ll never be able to come back from that, Awesome!
Idiot.
(sorry David)
I know your grasp of the English language is tenuous at best, but you really need to start reading these posts more carefully.
You said gay people are wrong.
SqrlCub said don’t do “gay things,” meaning don’t do anything unless you’re sure that there are no gay people involved in any way, especially fashion, entertainment and the arts.
You misread Sqrl and said that normal people do those things.
I pointed out that there are more gay people involved in those industries than in other industries, but that every industry involves gay people.
Then you turned around and agreed with me that there are a lot of gay men involved in theatre and fashion.
So first you said they weren’t gay things, then you say they are - make up your mind.
However, the truth is still the truth - 10% of every sport is gay (a simple way to put it, but that’s all he understands, folks). Baseball, basketball, hockey, football, soccer, you name it, 10% of them are gay. Whether you know it or not is irrelevant.
Esprix, who is unable to help himself when it comes to the care and feeding of bridge dwellers…
Sorry for this David…
Once upon a time in the land of Straights (Straight Dope that is), there lived a midget troll who thought he was mighty. He was so inconsequential that he thought having a multitude of stars in his name would get him noticed. Well, the dopers looked around and saw that they weren’t really stars but an unusual type of hat.
“What type of hat is it?” the gay dopers asked falling into the straight concept that gay people are highly fashion conscience.
So the gay dopers, Sqrl, Otto, and Esprix closed in for better inspection. (Sorry, Neurro…lesbians aren’t known for their fashion sense… ;)) To their surprise, it was a magic hat and an evil one at that and seemed to be made of some type of reflective material that shone like a thousands of stars billions upon billions of light years away.
The wicked troll espoused, “begone from here you foul creatures, this is the STRAIGHT dope, not the GAY dope.” He continued to rant and rave performing his tiki rituals until the other dopers realized that aligning themselves with him was akin to aligning themselves with the malign force of nature…or a train wreck. During this rant, he gave gays certain powers: the power of fashion, the power to control ALL media, the power to induce sickness on those who are within the moral majority. In so doing, he gave himself the power to speak for all the Straights out in Straight Dope land. This was his only power and it made him mad that there were gay people out there that he could not control.
Well, soon the straights in Straight Dope land got bored. “We have no fashion,” they cried. So magically the gay dopers granted all who would take them, hip hugging bellbottoms, collarless button-up shirts, nice and comfortable leather shoes, and some really groovy star glasses that allowed them to see people as equals unless proven otherwise.
The accepting Straights were ecstatic at this new found sense of fashion but were still wary since Orion still spoke for all of them and thus were not too comfortable being around the gay people.
Well, the gay dopers were accorded the power to control media and this made Orion mad, but he could not take back a power that he already gave so he made concessions. He knew that the television was evil but the thing was so darn entertaining. Luckily he had a lobby to protect people from all the gay ideas that could so easily be carried over onto television in addition to the gays being afraid of a massive strike against them until one day the straight people. So slowly the television started to decline. Orion in his infinite wisdom decided to go easy on the media… he saw it as less a force to contend with as of late then suddenly shows started featuring gay characters. Soap was among the first, then Busom Buddies and their transvestite exploits, then Ellen (the first show to have a gay lead), and now Will and Grace all started to air.
Orion was mad, he gave up a fight and all of a sudden there were some shows that featured regular gay characters, and low and behold…they were normal. They were similar to him. The straight Straight Dopers saw these shows and since they were written well, were funny and entertaining. The gay dopers rejoiced and thought, “finally the straights can see us as we are… normal like them with just a different preference.”
Well, luckily Orion’s powers were starting to dwindle. The straight Straight Dopers were seeing the gay people in Gay land (next to Straight dope land) as being pretty much just like them. This offended a few straights who left to a place commonly known as Left Behind land, since they were now not in the world where they felt they had to fight to keep gays away. Luckily for everyone involved there have been emisaries in Left-Behind land who actively try to show them their misconceptions of human life in Straight dope land.
Well, this was all going fine and dandy then Orion reared his head again. He said, “Homosexuality should be a crime.” Well, Will and Grace seemed pretty normal. Luckily Ellen lost her show when she ceased to be funny and the even funnier Will and Grace took her place.
Well, the straight crowds saw that Will was pretty normal, perhaps a little too clean and proper for the straight crowd, but they identified with his foibles. This angered the now evil Orion. He started spouting off obsolete laws that were designed to take away various groups of people’s rights. This brings up the following quote:
The straights realized that abridging one group’s freedoms could have the effect that eventually their own freedom would be affected. This scared the straights but Orion cried it was not true, but history seemed to kick him in his teeth.
“But, I have the magic aluminum hat!” He shrieked pointing to the pointy cone.
The straight people with their newfound gay sensibilities shouted back, “but that is unfashionable. You will never find Will wearing that hideous thing.”
“But it is beautiful!” he protested ineffectually. “It gives me powers to grant people things that simply aren’t there.”
“We know,” they yelled back, “see, you no longer speak in our voice because you are wrong… and horribly out of date in the fashion sense. Our hip hugging bellbottoms and groovy glasses have maintained long past your gorilla suit and shiny, star sparkly hat.”
“Well then,” Orion began, “who will be your leader? Who will procreate if gays rule the world?”
“We elect Sqrl. He has that divine sensibility where you are totally lacking. He will not abuse his powers or claim his voice is singular to all people like you do.”
Magically SqrlCub removes Orion********Orion’s aluminum foil hat. “I will not rule you,” Sqrl simply states, “you all have minds of your owns. I will however help in liberating you from this troll.”
Orion shivers as the FBI’s orbital mind control lasers take effect.
“Wow!” Orion exclaims, “I have needed that for a long time. The world isn’t as simple as I have stated. Look over there, those people look like homosexuals. I love you guys. I see now that I am wholly gay. I was just so frightened that I was not like all the rest of the straights out there… I suppose now I have to go feltch Marlon Brando’s crack addict son.”
“No need,” Sqrl our hero states, “you too have a free will. We will not make you do anything that you are not comfortable with…for that matter, we will not make you do anything that you don’t want to do at all.”
With this everyone was happy, and Orion was never thought of as a troll again…Until one day…(see any negative posts he writes since this one.)
HUGS!
Sqrl
PS. I will add this to its own thread in MPSIMS
LOL! SqrlCub, you a professional comedian? You’re a scream, dude!
Esprix wrote:
Hmmm … one hears about gay actresses and actors, but one hardly ever hears about gay football players. Is this because if they came out of the closet, they’d be less popular with all those tough macho beer-swillin’ he-man couch-potato football fans?
A certain NFL quarterback is rumored to be gay. Very popular team. For a while, he even had a roommate. I won’t tell you guys who but you guys can probably guess. Also, I had a good friend in San Antonio whose bf was in the WWF. I know it is not exactly a sport but he was still pretty hot.
HUGS!
Sqrl
Nwo, now, Sqrl, no need to go propogating baseless rumours. Even if the gentleman in question just happens to be a 38-year old unmarried Mormon . . . 
Originally posted by SqrlCub:
Don’t be sorry, SQ! That posting deserves a place of honour on the Page o’ Flames.
But alas, the the pounders only have two choices when presented with facts (amazingly, just like starboy has two choices when presented with facts, and the same two, at that!): Ignore, Lie.
Now, if only starboy could apply logic and fact to reason. Heck, if he could only reason!
Actually, I think what starboy, like so many other bigoted fundie types (not fundie types, but the bigoted ones), is freedom itself (not the poster, the concept). They and he seem to be direly afraid of having any freedom whatsoever so they wish to deny it to all others.
Just quoted this so y’all know why I’m saying: It hurts like the dickens when the graham cracker goes down the wrong way.
Sadly, again amongst the bigoted fundie types (same disclaimer as above), it is fashionable to attribute falsehoods with facts. {Which reminds me: which poster on this site was the first to refer to their religion as “The Church of the Nine Commandments?”}
Too cool for words.
I can only hope and pray that starboy is not one of those who breeds.
Good choice. At least for the moment. Maybe we’ll have elections later. But, of course, starboy and his ilk will claim we’re all committing a crime when we’re just “sinners.” {Yet another aside: on the pounder board, one dude (CeeJay) responded to me with this insanity: “I don’t sin, I’m saved.” Right, sure. And like I really believe he’s Christ (Cee) Jesus (Jay).}
Actually, I’m awaiting evidence starboy has a mind of his own.
No doubt.
And I submit that this is what scares starboy and his ilk more than anything else.
Again sadly, starboy will not understand that this is a lesson to him to not force one’s beliefs on another.
I used to use an eggtimer to guage such events but it couldn’t tell me how long it takes for just one grain of sand to drop.
Right back atcha!
Don’t forget about the Page o’ Flames.
10% WRONG WRONG WRONG
First of all: there was never 10%
It’s this old lie from the fagots once again where they say that 10% of the population is gay. This happend right before Clintons election in 1996-97 or so, when the fagots asserted that they represented 10% of the voters.
They tested this assertion and found out that it was just 3% of the population that considered them selves a gay/lesbian.
And I believe that this number are less in the sportsworld, since most gays are too soft.
Don’t get me wrong: I still think that homosexual activity should be illegal.
SqrlCub:
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{BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA}
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{ahem} I love you. (But don’t tell Libertarian, or Polycarp, or whoever else I’ve said I love in the past week or so.)
Hey! How come they elected you? 
Esprix, who wouldn’t mind being VP in charge of All Things Fabulous
Gee, ya think? That, and the prevading dichotomy of homophobia/homoeroticism inherent in all sports, both on and off the field.
Please quote me this reference.
Please go read something about Kinsey.
Then please go away.
Honey, allow me to give you the address of your local leather bar, and we’ll see how soft you are… {heh heh heh}
And I think blatant ignorance should be, too, but what are ya gonna do?
Esprix
You have forgotten the last part here.
The part where Orion turns to the US army and becomes their leader. (as you all know the USarmy is very anti-gay)
Orion have a lot of Atomic bombs, stealth airplanes, cannons, guns and ships. This makes the gays scared and they finally see that they must change their evil way. Orion said that he would leave the gays alone if they promised to not have sex with each other.
They agree and everybody lived happely from now on.
‘’’’’'About gay in sport. Some are gay (but very few). And they are mostly americans.
In Europe we have soccer as the no.1 sport(we in Europe call’s it football, but the americans insist calling it soccer) and you don’t find any gays there. Not a chance.
You have forgotten the last part here.
The part where Orion turns to the US army and becomes their leader. (as you all know the USarmy is very anti-gay)
Orion have a lot of Atomic bombs, stealth airplanes, cannons, guns and ships. This makes the gays scared and they finally see that they must change their evil way. Orion said that he would leave the gays alone if they promised to not have sex with each other.
They agree and everybody lived happely from now on.
‘’’’’'About gay in sport. Some are gay (but very few). And they are mostly americans.
In Europe we have soccer as the no.1 sport(we in Europe call’s it football, but the americans insist calling it soccer) and you don’t find any gays there. Not a chance.
You have forgotten the last part here.
The part where Orion turns to the US army and becomes their leader. (as you all know the USarmy is very anti-gay)
Orion have a lot of Atomic bombs, stealth airplanes, cannons, guns and ships. This makes the gays scared and they finally see that they must change their evil way. Orion said that he would leave the gays alone if they promised to not have sex with each other.
They agree and everybody lived happely from now on.
‘’’’’'About gay in sport. Some are gay (but very few). And they are mostly americans.
In Europe we have soccer as the no.1 sport(we in Europe call’s it football, but the americans insist calling it soccer) and you don’t find any gays there. Not a chance.