Hot Teachers, Seduced Students

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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If I were 12 and my hot teacher seduced me:

  1. if it ended with her telling me how wonderful it was and how great I was, it would probably be one of the fondest and most powerful memories of my life.

  2. if it ended with her telling me how inept I was and heaping distain on me, it might permanently fuck up my relationships with women for the rest of my life. (And though the seducation never happened, I can’t say my relationships have been that stellar anyway.)

Of course, not knowing how it would end, I would have been a pushover either way. I was, and still am, a very non-agressive person, so I certainly wouldn’t have been the instigator.

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If you were 12 and your hot teacher seduced you, you’d most likely be freaked the fuck out.

I think it’s *adorable * the way so many of y’all are projecting such worldliness onto the memories of your adolescent selves.

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What if it ended with her being arrested, all the kids in school knowing about it, your parents freaking out, it being in the news? That seems a likely third scenario. How would you be emotionally affected by that outcome, even if your relationship with her ended with her telling you how wonderful you were?

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I think I would have been a hero to the other boys, my dad probably would have beat the crap out of me and my mom would have waved her hands and told me she was praying for me. My name would probably never have made it into the press, as there a somewhat different culture in the press corps back in those days.

I’m reasonably sure that her being fired and arrested or imprisoned would be the most disturbing thing to me, by far.

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Buddy, if you need someone to explain why having sex with your teacher is a bad idea, then you need a huge infusion of common sense.

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I don’t know, there’s Amy McElhenney (25), who is apparently facing 20 years for having sex with her 18 year old student. They probably thought it was fine as he was over the age of consent. That’s a pretty big number.

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I have another perspective on this.

When I began teaching, during my first year, I was asked to tutor an eighth grade student after school. Her parents asked that she be taken out of school during the day, because her mother found love notes from the eighth grade counselor (male) written to her daughter. He had been having sex with her starting when she was 12…so for three years both the girl and the counselor managed to keep the relationship hidden. The parents were pursuing legal action. Everyone knew which girl it was…she was jeered and humiliated by nearly everyone at the school, even as the counselor sat in jail. I felt sorry for the girl. And angry at the counselor, who was married and had an eight month old baby when he was caught.

This soured me on my own profession for awhile. Scum buckets like him who prey on children is completely wrong. No wonder people don’t respect teachers like they once did, thanks to Letourneau, Smart and all.

Going back to high school, one of my teachers was having sex with one of her male students. She was single and 36, he was 16. She told me about this years later and said, “he was just so sexual,” and according to her, HE seduced HER. I told her then, and still say it today: it is wrong for an adult to have sex with a minor.

Now I find out one of my friends was seduced at 17 by a 38 YO female who was married.

What do I say? It is still wrong for an adult to have sex with a minor. Whether that minor is 20 years younger, or 5.

I don’t care if all the teenage males and females fantasize about “doing” their teachers…it is wrong to act on it. I know some people on this thread say to take each case as it comes, but I have seen sexual abuse victims and I seriously doubt they would be able to forgive or move through the healing process faster if their teachers were “hawwwt.” We are the adults and under no circumstance, be it passion, love, lust, whatever…should an adult have sex with a kid. Period.

Would you want your child to go through this? I certainly wouldn’t. Think about this: take away the teaching profession and you still have a pedophile on your hands.

Thank you to all the teachers who are doing their damn level best to educate this generation…and keeping their pants zipped.

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Yeah, buddy, who are you to analyze your own life?! Leave it to the experts!

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Yeah, teenagers should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it feels good at the time! They have excellent judgment, especially about sex, and great acuity when analyzing long term consequences. Seriously, buddy, trust your adolescent dick! It’ll never steer you wrong!

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Hey, buddy, who are you to make an induction fallacy where the individual experiences of DFTH are a cruel illusion because they don’t conform to some satisfying generlization, even if he himself says they didn’t? You some kinda JThundery kinda guy, or what?

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And why are you generalizing one person’s supposed experience and “satisfaction” to an entire subset of people? Teachers should not abuse the trust and power given to them by having sex with students. The world has found this to be a good and wise course, except for a few people here who seem to think they know different. Even if that were true, why would that be an example for the rest of us to follow or aspire to (and I use “aspire” very loosely). As a student, as a teacher (I subbed for a bit) and as a parent, teacher/student sex, no matter the gender is wrong.

Mary Kay L and her now husband may share a long and happy life together, but it was still wrong of her to abuse her position of power this or any other way.

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Yeah, who am I to think that DFTH is laboring under some sexist delusions and revisionist history about how adolescents think and feel, and using his personal beliefs and nostalgic reminiscences about his own urges to argue against the social contract between teachers and students? Really, the nerve of people who apply common sense and standards of ethical behavior to the interactions between adults and their charges! How dare we not think of the teacher’s hottness and the boy’s horniness when making our public policy.

Seriously… DFTH used how men talk about sex in the locker room to prove that no man has ever felt bad about having sex. He’s not exactly using rigorous logic and objective standards of evidence.

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Personally, I prefer to take him at his word. If he says he wasn’t harmed, I believe him. I make or imply no statement of approval of the practice in general.

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He never did it, from what I can tell. He just thinks it could never harm a boy and isn’t really wrong.

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And if a man plays with a loaded gun and isn’t harmed, what should we conclude? That playing with loaded guns is a perfectly responsible thing to do?

Note that for the sake of argument, we’re assuming that he was NOT personally harmed by the experience.

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I doubt #2 would have happened. I mean, c’mon! you’re 12! What great athletic feats could she expect?

I suggest moving this to Great Debates. Feels now like that’s where this thread belongs.

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We should conclude he’s lucky, and that seems to be a point of contention throughout this thread. :slight_smile:

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:smiley:

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So honestly, if this was your son, you’d just think he’s lucky, maybe just buy him a beer?

OK, then. I guess there’s not going to be any consensus on this topic. I think the risks involved are too great, considering that almost all the women (if not all) who do stuff like this are nutjobs who are abusing their authority and disregarding their obligations as teachers acting in loco parentis. It seems like the male posters who endorse this are only thinking of the sex, not of any of the other aspects. And the other aspects are very compelling IMO.

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My answer wasn’t addressed to whether it’s ok to boink your teacher, but about engaging in risky behavior and not getting hurt.