Hotel of Heroes mafia

I’m never sure which thread to comment in after the game, this one, or the forbidden…
Ok, gang, seriously:

**How did I do this time around? **

Hot diggity damn. What a ride. Thanks Mahaloth and players. :slight_smile:

I think you did really well Meeko. I only had a small twinge of metagame read that the cases against you were being encouraged by scum and the Townies weren’t able to get past your communication style, and I almost talked myself out of that because I thought a Scum Meeko might be more likely to react to that statement of mine as WIFOM than a Town Meeko would. I also had no problem with your just-a-vote-charger attempt, but I was also very resistant to embrace the game as a carbon-copy of Harry Potter until pretty much the end.

You shouldn’t have used your vote charger power-- I think maybe we rattled you a bit by blocking you? The first time you used it, it let us figure out who you were (yes, I knew you were the Doctor before your claim), and the second time, it meant you weren’t able to protect that Night, so we could kill you with impunity.

Other than that, though, I think you did fine.
Oh, and by the way, the primary reason we killed peeker was that we thought him unlikely to be protected. And IIRC, Pleo said he was getting a power role vibe off of him. After that, we were hunting for the Detective and other power roles.

As an aside, I think I goofed by killing Cookies. I didn’t think of the argument that confirmed Astral until too late, and if we were going to have a confirmed at endgame anyway, it would have been better to have someone a little more trusting of me.

The number of nights, back to back, got to me.

Yes, I figured [hoped] that Storyteller would protect the night following the day I charged his vote.

But then, we had the second night after that.

Has any game ever had as many cause and effect mechanics go off so close to each other?

Would love to know how you knew. But then again, I’ve already asked Maha for access to the other boards.

I figured I was blocked. Maha: comments on if you will send notifications in future games? Because that’s what did it for me… That night I tried to protect, You didn’t say I did, so I assumed that I didn’t

Chronos : You could have taken me any night you wanted, I couldn’t self protect.

Doesn’t help my paranoia.

Largest I’ve seen. I had this game given to you guys(scum) awhile ago.

I was actually rather surprised you killed Cookies. I really expected her to be left alive so there would still be a possibility that she might not really be confirmed Town, and maybe the setup was different than what we all thought.

I think that was the biggest thing that went against you. It was of immense help knowing exactly how many Scum we had left the last couple Days. If we didn’t know that, you could probably have forced us to lynch Cookies one of those Days, and that would have been the end of things. As it was, the closer we got to end-game, the more possibilities fell away because they didn’t fit the known pattern.

What I really want to know is how I managed to convince both **Astral **and **Cookies **to vote my way on Day 7? I was certain when I walked away from the thread that the game would be over when I got back to it.

Meeko, as an impartial observer, I think this was your best game.

I even made a defense in the spoiled thread that your vote charge was the correct move with the information that you had at the time you made the decision.

My vote for Wolverine really came down to three very vague things: 1) He got a lot of heat early for his ‘bad ideas’ from people who were town 2) his summary of the Idle case just rang hollow to me with one part possible reverse psychology of asking for the case to be re-stated it so that it is reaffirmed, one part possible public scum gloat at the case that the Town had put together on one of their own, one part the newbie angle is just wearing a bit thin 3) Buck the trend that I’d been holding to for most of the game that had my primary suspects flipping as Town.

Who knows how it would have gone down if I were one of the final three. I think it would depend on how much time I had, and I don’t think much leniency would have made it into my final decision as far as Chronos was concerned. My granular end-game analysis takes a lot of time and effort, and it only really works if you start from scratch and who ever comes out smelling the worst gets the vote.

I think it’s safe to say that you have.

I wasn’t sure about Cookies vote on Day 7 (she was pretty quiet) so I tried to solidify Astral’s vote by swiping at Chronos. What I’m curious is why Astral was so certain that I was the scum partner and not Suburban Plankton? In his unvote of Suburban he thought Suburban was dirty but when Astral votes Chronos, he thinks Suburban is town so I must be scum.

As a Red Herring / Does Storyteller have that as a power? / move heat off of me type of tactic?

Not exactly.

At the point in time you made the decision, you were in a position where you were forced to claim. You made the gambit of claiming solely vote charger, but everyone who paid attention to Harry Potter knew that you were also the Doc. The Roleblocker was still alive at that point, so you being out meant that there was no way you’d live through the Night. You didn’t have any way of knowing that the Roleblocker would be lynched. So the smart thing to do was pick one of the more confirmed Town players who you trusted, and charge their vote.

Oh, and in case it’s unclear, I was defending your SECOND vote charge. The first one I was neutral on.

I don’t know who has been the worst player in the last two games: Suburban Plankton for lynching me in two different games (after thinking I’m scum), when I’m Town both times…or me for thinking he’s scum in the same two games, when he’s also been Town.

We both really need to start trusting each other more, methinks, haha.

Pleonast, why didn’t you claim on Day One? Fake claim, obviously.

Ok.

Drain and Maha question the vote charge on Skeezix.

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In hindsight, wasn’t that more of a hail Mary than I thought it was? **

I had to charge for my gambit to work. I knew Skeezix was 99% town.

And IIRC, that was THE turning point for us in the game.

Oh, and thank Inner Stickler for the idea of running an old game again.

This post inspired me

Honestly, Potter mafia had weak participation, especially early. I had a few mod-kills and so forth and I never thought that game got a fair shot. I thought re-running it would be good.

Oh, and Cookies role is one that I’ll never do again. At least not identically. It’s the only major flaw in the game.

Well, by that time there weren’t all that many players left. We knew that none of us was the Doc, Cookies and Red Skeezix obviously weren’t, and Idle had declared vanilla. So that left you, Astral, and Suburban. But they had both voted against Storyteller, while the vote charger had charged up his vote. So by process of elimination, you were the only one it could have been.

As for you not being able to self-protect, it didn’t matter much, because we didn’t know that you couldn’t. WiFoM can work even when the glass is empty.

And I think I figured out what went wrong. For most of the game, I was trying to play the same way that I would if I were Town (at least, by Day), but then, when we got so close to winning, I started actively trying to get mislynches. I should have just continued to play as though Town, and let Town do the mislynching themselves.

Yes, I think we do.

You go first :wink:

I’m not following Pleonast in the scum board.

How on earth can a block be conditional!?

Block the kill target, if it is raining today, but if it is partly cloudy, sing the alphabet backwards in Russian.

What the fck!?

How and Why can scum be THAT choosy with the role?