I laughed pretty hard when House said that he read Foreman’s paper instead of Cameron’s so that he wouldn’t get a “cap in his ass.”
Didn’t quite get that one. He was afraid Foreman would strike him with an item of headwear?
This was a so-so episode. I actually turned it off last night and watched it this morning. Nothing like mind numbing tv before coming into work
I saw most of the drama pan out early on, I didn’t figure out the illness of course, but I saw the double feint with the lesbians.
Cameron… well she was Cameron this episode. It’s amazing to me she’s a full on doctor and still holds such idyllic views. House is doing his damndest to knock those out of her but she’s proving resilient.
Unless I’m being whooshed, “bust a cap in my ass” means “shoot me in the ass”. House has always maintained that Foreman is a typical street punk with criminal tendencies.
Coincidentally about the plague thing, I heard a radio news item today that a case of plague was just reported in California, the first for many years in the state. They said the woman contracted it “from fleas”. Well, where else was she going to get it from?
Most of their patients get flooded with broad-spectrum antibiotics, just in case, but of course not the woman with the plague.
No seizures or intubating this episode, but we’ve had bloody diarrhea twice in a row.
I like that House was asleep at the beginning of all his scenes.
It’s a sort of ghetto term to say “shoot him.”
I don’t care for Cameron, so it was funny to see Foreman completely rip into her like that.
I find the criticism of Cameron in this thread disturbing. Does everyone really think that it’s good practice to screw over your collegues for personal advancement?
It’s not a matter of friendship; it’s a matter of courtesy to your coworkers: if I know you are working on something, it’s bad in all respects if I jump ahead of you for personal gain.
I didn’t say it was right, but as Cutty pointed out it was up to Cameron to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Foreman did what he did because he knew he could get away with it. Don’t forget this was the same guy who wanted to keep that temporary promotion, (House Sitting) despite the headaches it caused him. He is ambitious and ambitious people tend to ignore nicities when they think they can get away with it.
In his mind he will be out of there in a few years and higher up on the foodchain. If that means a few years of friction he will take it. Cameron has only one option, prevent him from doing it in the future rather than bitch and moan after the fact.
That being said, House tends to begrudgingly side with Cameron’s morals at times (Why else did he have that discussion with Cutty about the personal life of “her” patient) He may just, for the sheer joy of it, make Foreman’s life more miserable while mocking Cameron’s goody goody attitude as a twisted form of justice.
Cameron was also waiting for House, of all people, to review her article before moving forward. Do I remember right that House didn’t actually read either, and Foreman submitted his anyway, knowing he couldn’t rely on House? I thought the “cap in ass” comment was just a throwaway joke.
I’m also not sure that one can call dibs on a case that is worthy of publication. Cameron’s paper could have been garbage, for all anyone knew, why should Foreman have to sit on his hands just because she started her paper first? That’s all out the window if Foreman read her paper first, then wrote his own, of course.
And weren’t the two papers going to focus on different aspects on the case? Foreman wrote a paper on the therapeutical aspects of the case. Cameron was writing on the ethics of the case.
My dad, who HATES House and always leaves after AI, happened to be in the room for this. He actually did a spit take with his Cheerios. I wish he’d been in there for the whole “What basketball player did you date in college?” line about Cameron.
Yeah, I really liked it too. Too often TV shows try to pretend the workplace is “one big happy family” and that your colleages are your best buddies for life. I thought it was refreshing that the show acknowledged thatlife aint’ like that.
I also liked how it was a lesbian couple but there wasn’t a big deal made about it at all and the lesbianism was completely unrelated to the plot. Max could have just as easily been a guy and the story would have been the same.
Not only that, but as far as I could tell, Cameron didn’t inform Foreman she was submitting a paper. The difference is that Foreman went ahead and submitted without House’s review. Cameron could’ve done the same.
Oh, cripes yes, I’m still chuckling over that one.
Yes he did. That was her whole point. “You knew I was writing a paper about that case, you had my notes!” And later, when she asked Chase (during the colonoscopy) if he’d said anything, Chase indicated he’d told Foreman he could’ve chosen a different case to work on, that Foreman knew Cameron was writing a paper. Foreman went ahead and did it because he knew he could. All Cameron would do is complain, and House wouldn’t do anything about it. Cameron may be a whiney wet blanket, but at least she’s ethical. I’d take her over Foreman as a doctor any day of the week.
Well, neither quality is absolutely a killer for a doctor, but Foreman’s attitude was just plain abhorrent to me.
It’s not about being a “big happy family” at work. It’s basic respect for your colleagues. If you know someone is working on something, it’s grabby and childish to do the same thing and beat them to it. Cutty was right in the long run – you have to be at House’s level to get away with it – and I can’t see defending Foreman’s actions in this.
I think it’s important to note that of the 3 disciples, Foreman is the closest to House. The main difference being that Foreman has more respect for the system and the machine in which he works. He simply hasn’t built up the resume yet to be able to continue to ignore the rules and do what he believes is right. As well as the fact that House is just better than him.
But remember, they wore the same shoes.
Foreman is the most obvious candidate to replace House if he were to die in, oh say, a motorcycle crash (NOT A SPOILER, WILD HUMOROUS JOKE). He filled in as the administrator for House when Cuddy was fed up with him.
Them showing us that Foreman wanted the attention is nothing surprising. Or at least, in my opinion, it shouldn’t be.
In my opinion, the entire point to this episode was to demonstrate that “ethical” is a term that has no real meaning. It made the point convincingly for me. Cameron’s protestations hinged on some vague notion of “ethics” that borders on “political correctness” or “popular opinion” but which is shown not to have any real substance.
This show manages to address such weighty matters with a tongue-in-cheek and almost sardonic tone. House’s misanthropic manner just adds to the moral relativism that underlies each case.
Over and above the Sherlock Holmes mystery in each week’s ventures, there’s usually some Big Picture implication that’s subtly addressed. This week it was more blatant as if somebody on the creative crew has been burned by “ethical vagueness” at some point.
In other professions, possibly. In medicine, ethics are very real. There are rules in place to support the ethical treatment of patients and oversight committees to make sure those rules are enforced. House is a decent show, but it’s still just a (dramatic) show, and there are many areas that it sidesteps. House constantly skates the edge of what is ethical and what isn’t. Foreman flat out steps over it. He’s absolutely the kind of doctor who’s more interested in padding his resume than the people he cares for.
I sorta saw it coming but maybe it was my wishful thinking.
Cameron gets deeply on my nerves, if she was ever my doctor I might have to slap her. I especially liked the episode because she got slapped down TWICE… frankly I didn’t even see the alleged “ethical dilemma”, it’s just dumb annoying Cameron gettin overinvolved with her patients again.
I was very disappointed earlier this season that she didn’t get slapped around harder for putting her patient through unnecessary tests instead of just telling her she had cancer, so I feel somewhat vindicated.
Of course, the show is so out of touch with reality that it’s hard to take it too seriously, I am alway amused at the “This guy is sick, go search his house” thing.