House of the Dragon, an HBO prequel series to Game of Thrones

Murder can be tough on a relationship.

Interesting theory about Larys and pretty plausible though I have to say that I find the insertion of random reaction shots rather annoying. Have been noticing it in other Youtube videos too.

Is anybody else thinking Larys is Littlefinger’s ancestor?

Wasn’t Littlefinger from a humble background? Being related to the Hand makes sense, though… :wink:

Yeah, Littlefinger had no Royal-adjacent ancestors. He was lucky his family had a name.

Apparently there is a scene in GoT where Joffrey spoils the ending of House of the Dragon. Or at least a very important plot point.

But isn’t HOTD based on a book? So the ending was already out there? I haven’t read any of the books and I’ve only paid attention to the HBO stuff for the most part, so maybe I’m mistaken.

Finally caught up with this show.

I said earlier that I wanted to see more scenes like the one where a blood-drenched Rhaenyra dragged a boar carcass back to camp, in sight of the entire royal hunting party. I did not envision seeing mother Rhaenyra presenting her newborn son to the queen, dragging the afterbirth behind her. :nauseated_face:

Yeah, but it wasn’t like game of thrones where a lot of people had read it.

Of course at the time, the Princess and The Queen hadn’t been written yet (it was written in June 2014). So Joffrey was just discussing the history that GRRM was busy writing :slight_smile: .

I’m still watching, and often digging it, but it just doesn’t have the same spark as GOT. Sometimes it even feels like a bit of a slog. And if I miss an episode on a Sunday night, I find I’m in no big hurry to see it.

And there’s an Oscar, too!: Grover Tully | Wiki of Westeros | Fandom

Seven, actually: Kingsguard | Wiki of Westeros | Fandom

Emphatically agreed. I posted something similar upthread.

And he earned that coffee mug, dammit!:

Yeah, collapsing at your daughter’s wedding isn’t a good sign. And he seems to have lost one of his arms over the next decade to The Creeping Crud from his finger.

“This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who…”

In fairness, many parts and a few episodes of GoT also were sloggish. When an author publishes their first book, they might spend years on it and address every detail. If successful, they might spend far less time on subsequent works -with varying results.

GoT was great, on balance, so much so it won’t soon be equalled*. It will inspire more series and this prequel is obvious and still attracting folks to HBO. It is a feat that the world even looks similar. It is pointless to much compare the two - one effort was far more successful unless a lot changes. But I liked the new female leads.

*AFAIK

It is perhaps not fair to the “new” actresses that it was the younger versions who introduced us to the characters. Emma D’Arcy is the lead in a major TV show, and presumably will be from here on out. Yet, I find myself judging her against Milly Alcock, whom I really liked as young Rhaenyra.

I knew I was watching Rhaenyra, but my brain had trouble accepting her. That’s not a knock against D’Arcy per se, but it just didn’t feel like the same character. At least the two Alicents have a very similar look, so the transition was less jarring.

After two episodes, I’m now used to the new cast.

I’ve also realized that I’m happy with the narrow scope of this series. No, it doesn’t have the sprawling reach of Game of Thrones nor the dozens and dozens of characters, but so far it’s a decently told drama. I’ve read the recaps of the source material for the Dance of Dragons and I think the twists and turns are great melodrama and there’s plenty of opportunity for them to bring it to life in a satisfying way.

As much as I loved Game of Thrones when it comes down to it, Martin still hadn’t finished it and the last few seasons were crap. This one—though much less ambitious—still has the potential to be at least solid.

Anyway, I’m enjoying this much more than Rings of Power.

During the first half, I was feeling I might give up on the show. The funeral scene was so long and slow, just everyone giving side-eye to everyone else. Then the really dark beach scene with Rhaenyra and Daemon, where I thought Aegon was spying on them until I realized it was Aemond going after the dragon. I thought the showrunners were making odd choices in the presentation.

But the second half saved it for me. That escalated quickly and brought an intensity to the story that we haven’t really seen before. I know that they have been setting up the pieces to get to the “dance of dragons” core of the story. I assume that the kid actors will be aged up as we get there. It looks like they will be formidable foes. I was glad that Laenor got away. Maybe someone will get a happy ending.

There were three dragons leaving with the King’s party. Was the third Helaena’s? She doesn’t seem a dragon-riding type.

I realize you literally mean “the group with the king,” so descriptively correct, but if anyone hasn’t picked it out yet, the two parties to the civil war are the Queen’s party (the “greens”) and the Princess’s party (the “blacks”).

Excellent episode! The funeral laying bare all of the built up anger and rage between the blacks and the greens. Really thought they did a fantastic job there, with Viserys powerless to stop what has been building for years.

Anyone having problems with the dark scenes needs to start watching it on demand, it looks MUCH better.

Yeah, I thought this show seemed to plod along at first. But a lot ended up happening. The plot is still simple but has become more interesting.

So what happens to Seasmoke? Does she think Laenor died too or will she follow him to Essos (which would be an even bigger giveaway that the hair)?