Well, I wasn’t addressing you.
Judges are a priority and democrats have been confirming judges at a blistering pace.
However… whether or not Feinstein retires is ultimately in her hands and no one else’s.
Well, I wasn’t addressing you.
Judges are a priority and democrats have been confirming judges at a blistering pace.
However… whether or not Feinstein retires is ultimately in her hands and no one else’s.
…this is an open thread. And as a person without a “Clinton hate boner”, what you posted here doesn’t mean a lot, to be honest.
They haven’t been confirmed at a “blistering pace” the last few weeks.
Yeah. That’s how it works. When I am addressing someone else it might not mean a lot to someone who I am not addressing. this is like basic human communication stuff.
Derpa derpa derpa. Oh really. You’re so clever.
Once again… whether or not Feinstein retires is ultimately in her hands and no one else’s.
You just can’t go around forcing little old ladies to do things they don’t want to do in this country. Maybe it’s different in New Zealand.
…it doesn’t mean a lot to anyone. The actions of the Governor in an individual state aren’t representative of Democrat policy as a whole. As can be seen by Democrat Governors in other states who aren’t doing the same things.
I wasn’t “being clever.” They haven’t been. And if people hadn’t gone public, the situation may have continued for weeks, or months.
Its a sign of a broken system and a lack of strategy. Things that the Democrats have shown zero interest in fixing.
Strawman.
I would argue that tantrums are generally fact free. K9 may be angry, but he’s making arguments. He’s citing sources. He’s not just attacking people who disagree with him.
And one of his arguments seems to undermine a lot of
ire for Feinstein. If she’s voluntarily stepping down from the judicial committee, that allows Democrats to get their judges in, which seems to be the big issue.
Sure, there is the argument she should step down entirely. But, unless her vote is actually needed, that doesn’t seem to be urgent. And her ability to resign one suggest she can resign the other if it becomes necessary.
And regardless of your feelings, it makes sense that her colleagues see her as a human being, not a useless lump. When possible, it’s rather normal to be sympathetic to someone who is sick and holds out hope they may get better. Even if she is not going to recover, it makes sense they’d not pressure her too much yet.
It does seem just to be needlessly provocative to refer to her that way.
…it doesn’t mean a lot to anyone. The actions of the Governor in an individual state aren’t representative of Democrat policy as a whole. As can be seen by Democrat Governors in other states who aren’t doing the same things.
It means a lot to the people of Michigan and, more importantly, other Democratic trifecta states are doing the same things. It’s just more dramatic in Michigan because Democrats took control for the first time in 40 years so they had some catching up to do.
Its a sign of a broken system and a lack of strategy.
Letting people, even women, make their own choices is not a sign of a broken system and has nothing to do with strategy.
Sometimes it’s hard to get things done with a razor thin majority in one half of the legislature. That’s reality whether you accept it or not.
When Democrats get control they do the things you want them to do.
That’s not the lesson, here. The lesson here is when the Democratic party actually listens to its progressive wing, it wins elections. If Hillary Clinton had been more like Gretchen Whitmer, and less like herself, we wouldn’t have had to endure four years of Orange Fanta Hitler. Which is exactly what we told you would happen, and all we got was shit on by centrist Dems for it.
You’re too busy nursing your Clinton hate boner to help us out with that.
Hey, you might want to scroll back up and remind yourself which hate-boner started this thread. It wasn’t some surly progressive who picked this fight, it was that choad @Stoid, still looking to pass the buck on the failure of her dogshit candidate, instead of doing absolutely any introspection on how the Democratic party failed to win what should have been the easiest election in the history of democracies.
Letting people, even women, make their own choices is not a sign of a broken system and has nothing to do with strategy.
Equating advocacy for a more parliamentarian form of government with being anti-choice is cheap and dishonest, and you know it.
It means a lot to the people of Michigan and, more importantly, other Democratic trifecta states are doing the same things.
…and it still isn’t a national strategy on how to protect the rights of people seeking an abortion.
It’s just more dramatic in Michigan because Democrats took control for the first time in 40 years so they had some catching up to do.
But what is the plan to protect trans people in states like Florida, Texas and Virginia? You are on the verge of a genocide. What is the strategy? What’s the gameplan? What do trans people in those states do?
Letting people, even women, make their own choices is not a sign of a broken system and has nothing to do with strategy.
I’m sorry, but are you imagining that the issues with Feinstein’s health came out of no-where?
But many others familiar with Feinstein’s situation describe her as seriously struggling, and say it has been evident for several years. Speaking on background, and with respect for her accomplished career, they say her short-term memory has grown so poor that she often forgets she has been briefed on a topic, accusing her staff of failing to do so just after they have. They describe Feinstein as forgetting what she has said and getting upset when she can’t keep up. One aide to another senator described what he called a “Kabuki” meeting in which Feinstein’s staff tried to steer her through a proposed piece of legislation that she protested was “just words” which “make no sense.” Feinstein’s staff has said that sometimes she seems herself, and other times unreachable. “The staff is in such a bad position,” a former Senate aide who still has business in Congress said. “They have to defend her and make her seem normal.”
Dianne Feinstein’s Missteps Raise a Painful Age Question Among Senate Democrats | The New Yorker
That was three years ago. If the system was working she wouldn’t be there right now. The median age in the Senate is 65.3. They are getting older. There have only ever been eleven Black senators. Eleven. Only five American Indian senators. This isn’t a representative system. It isn’t “working.”
Sometimes it’s hard to get things done with a razor thin majority in one half of the legislature. That’s reality whether you accept it or not.
The reality is that the dems have no national strategy to defend trans people, no national strategy to protect the right to an abortion, no national grassroots campaigns to win smaller, local battles and elections, no national strategy to fix the industrial prison complex, no national strategy to deal with ant-CRT propaganda and book bannings, no strategy to protect the marginalised and the vunerable in Republican states, no national strategy to deal with the rising militarisation of the police, the epidemic levels of gun shooting, the fact you lock up more people per capita than anywhere else in the world, that don’t have universal healthcare.
I mean, I’m sad that “it’s hard to get things done with a razor thin majority in one half of the legislature.” But the stakes right now are really fucking high. And if the best you can do here is shrug your shoulders and think “that they’ve done all they can do”, then you may as well kiss your country goodbye already. Nobody said that fighting for democracy was going to be easy.
But what is the plan to protect trans people in states like Florida, Texas and Virginia? You are on the verge of a genocide. What is the strategy? What’s the gameplan? What do trans people in those states do?
Emphasis mine.
Sorry to butt in, but I’ve seen this claim in a few different places recently and… well, I’m not sure if I’m missing something really obvious but when I hear the word ‘genocide’ I think of cattle cars and gas chambers - and I’d wager most people probably make similar associations. It seems self-evident that we’re nowhere near anything like that. I’m not saying there’s no such thing as anti-trans discrimination, but why is the word ‘genocide’ so frequently being used to describe it?
I think of cattle cars and gas chambers
…genocide doesn’t just mean “cattle cars and gas chambers.”
From the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention:
November 29, 2022 The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention voices its concern over the growing number of laws introduced in the United States that target transgender individuals and the transgender community. Anti-trans hostility in the US has...
Genocidal ideologies are ideologies that deny or seek to erase the existence of a specific group because of the supposed threat it poses to the holders of the ideology. The gender critical movement simultaneously denies that transgender identity is real and seeks to eradicate it completely from society.
The Missouri Attorney General is close to introducing emergency regulations that will essentially make trans affirming care almost impossible for adults in that state. Adults will be either forced to detransition, move to another state, or lie about whether or not they have autism/depression then wait three years then go through 18 months of therapy sessions.
The intent here is to eliminate trans people from society. It starts by targeting trans people for harassment. Demonizing the group. The next step is to make it impossible for them to get the healthcare that they need.
Hey, you might want to scroll back up and remind yourself which hate-boner started this thread.
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If she’s voluntarily stepping down from the judicial committee, that allows Democrats to get their judges in, which seems to be the big issue.
That’s not what she’s doing though. She has asked permission to have her spot on the judiciary committee temporarily filled by someone else until she can travel to DC again. In the short term that permission can be blocked by the Republicans. It will take a much longer process if she can get that permission at all. In the mean time Democrats are underrepresented on the committee while Republicans are blocking all appointments. This is nothing but a band-aid in the face of the growing criticism she’s facing.
What do you think I’m doing, dipshit?
No idea what you are doing. Maybe you intended to contrast the difference between a competent effective Democrat and Hillary Clinton, but it didn’t come across to me that way, shit-for-brains.
I’m sorry, but are you imagining that the issues with Feinstein’s health came out of no-where?
They were aware of her health issues before the 117th Congress (2021-2023) and their priority was confirming judges so the they came up with a plan and a strategy to get that done. This plan was executed fantastically successfully and they exceeded expectations in filling judicial vacancies.
So when the 118th Congress (present) rolled around the put pretty much the same plan in place that had just been wildly successful. Their priority was confirming judges and their strategy to do so had a track record of success.
They have hit an obstacle in this plan because a completely unrelated health issue to any they had known about in the past has sidelined a key member. The thing is, every member is a key a member when you have a razor thin majority. There are lots of single points of failure and in many areas the absence of a single senator can grind things to a halt.
The good news is that there’s still time for this to be resolved and for them to make up lost time on filling judicial vacancies with no long term harm done. Democratic senators are exploring their options and will solve this problem.
No idea what you are doing.
I have been told that that is a common experience for stupid people. Must suck for you.
Not really, I’ve heard no one knows what you are talking about, including you. I’m sure you imagine you’re engaged in some kind of rational reasoning, but those would be other words you don’t understand. And BTW, I got tired of this kind of back and forth by the third grade. I’m surprised after you spent 3 years in the 3rd grade you didn’t get tired of it also.
This plan was executed fantastically successfully
put pretty much the same plan in place that had just been wildly successful.
no long term harm done.
…no answers to my questions then.
…and it still isn’t a national strategy on how to protect the rights of people seeking an abortion.
But what is the plan to protect trans people in states like Florida, Texas and Virginia? You are on the verge of a genocide. What is the strategy? What’s the gameplan? What do trans people in those states do?
The reality is that the dems have no national strategy to defend trans people, no national strategy to protect the right to an abortion, no national grassroots campaigns to win smaller, local battles and elections, no national strategy to fix the industrial prison complex, no national strategy to deal with ant-CRT propaganda and book bannings, no strategy to protect the marginalised and the vunerable in Republican states, no national strategy to deal with the rising militarisation of the police, the epidemic levels of gun shooting, the fact you lock up more people per capita than anywhere else in the world, that don’t have universal healthcare.
Just pretend everything is being “executed fantastically successfully” even when you can’t tell me what the plan is to protect trans people.
Gotcha.
There is no plan. As I said.
…no answers to my questions then.
I’m having a little trouble keeping up with your goal posts given how fast they are moving.
I’m having a little trouble keeping up with your goal posts given how fast they are moving.
…the goal posts haven’t been moved. Just because a single governor is doing some great things doesn’t mean the democrats have a strategic plan on how to deal with clear and present threats.
That would be a great point if only a single governor was advancing Democratic party goals anywhere in the US, but that is clearly not the case.
The foundation of your argument is flawed and the inevitable result of that is erroneous conclusions.