I learned of this incident in the early 1990’s. I’ve always considered it damning. Now it’s decades later and I want to be sure I evaluated it correctly.
A man of ~60 was on a business trip that happened to be in the city that his daughter (~30 yo) lived in. They went out for a meal. Afterwards, on the elevator up to the father’s hotel room, he put his hand on her butt and gave it a squeeze.
I might be willing to furnish more context, but for now, I’d like your opinions on just this. Is there any way this physical contact is not awful? How bad was it? Can such contact be non-sexual?
I’ve got 2 dtrs, aged 28 and 30. Pretty close to both. Can’t imagine a situation in which I would grab their butts. Not an excuse, but were they drunk? How “physical”/crude are they (hugs, etc.)? Was it intended as a joke?
Ok, this one is definitely going to be an official warning. Saying a political jab was excellent is basically just repeating the same jab, especially after someone has been warned for it.
Since the OP is soliciting opinions, let’s move this to IMHO. However, I’m instructing posters not to further hijack this thread by bringing Trump into it. While the first response was inappropriate for GQ, I agree that we don’t need every thread to be about Trump.
Are there people or cultures among whom a squeeze on the butt is considered a completely nonsexual gesture of affection, like a squeeze on the shoulder or the arm?
I don’t know of any, but it wouldn’t totally surprise me to learn that they exist.
Without knowing anything else, of course it sounds creepy. But perhaps the father was telling the daughter that she was gaining a little weight. Or perhaps the father was displaying signs of a memory disorder and didn’t know this was his daughter.
I am curious what role the OP has. Does he know the daughter in the present day? What did and does she think about this?
I wondered about this too. As I understand it, inappropriate sexual comments or actions can be a sign of senility/dementia/age-related cognitive decline.
Grotesquely creepy, IMHO:eek:. I have a daughter, 45, a granddaughter, 20, and another granddaughter 3. The 3 year old can get the occasional playful swat (and even then not a “squeeze”) on the butt but adolescents or adults??? yikes, absolutely NOT.
Why is this incident from 30 years ago more noteworthy than any other creepy behavior of this type? Some people are creepy. Some people are murders, some are cannibals, some people torture animals, some have sex with their kids.
I don’t know about a ‘squeeze’, but watch any US football game (or many other athletic events), and you’ll see quite a few pats/slaps on the butt that are definitely intended as non-sexual gestures.
So, I could see a dad giving his daughter a 'go get ‘em’ pat on the butt without it being *too *creepy (with a full-grown daughter, still a little creepy, but maybe not too creepy).
Why were they going up to the father’s hotel room?
The father’s behavior in the elevator would be perfectly normal if the were going there to fuck. Otherwise, the father was a creepizoid.
ETA: just to be perfectly clear, this post was not Trump related.