How do bigots explain this?

[raoulortega]

Remember that we’re talking about a group of people who like to identify themselves with a “Race” (“Aryans”) that does not exist.

You mean, like “La Raza?”

[bagkitty]

*Originally posted by Saint Zero *
**it boils down to the Romans doing the dirty work, but the Jewish authorites having them do it simply because he didn’t fit into their view of the world
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If only I had realized how powerful the Jewish authorities were… pushing around the Roman administrators… next thing you know those clever Jewish authorities will be convincing gentiles to wear yarmulkes by disguising them with giant mouse ears…

[zev_steinhardt]

*Originally posted by matt_mcl *
**As we know, Hitler was so alarmed by rumours of his own Jewry that he had the Nazi law defining Jews written to specifically exclude Jesus Christ and himself. **

Wow! :eek: I didn’t know that! Do you have a cite for that matt_mcl?

Zev Steinhardt

[avacado]

*Originally posted by redtail23 *
2. Many fundamentalist and conservative churches still teach that Jews killed Jesus and that therefore Jews are an evil people.

3. Even more moderate and mainstream churches still teach that Jews killed Jesus over the protests of the Romans.
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To nitpick a little, I think the Gospels teach that Jesus killed under apathy of the Romans, not protest. Pilate essentially said, “Well, I don’t really see anything all that wrong with the guy, and I’d rather just smack him around a little (crucifictions in those days being even more expensive than the gas chamber), but if it will prevent civil unrest, we’ll kill him.” (as paraphrased from Luke 23:16-24, Matt 27:22-24).

I think “Christian” anti-Semitism comes from Matt 27:24-25:

“When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.”

Most Christians don’t hate Jews, of course, but some people interpret Bible verses to mean anything they’d like them to. Some Christians hate Catholics, some Protestants, some propeller hat wearers. The point is that hate is supported by the hater’s perspective, not an objective perspective. You can find a reason to hate anything, even the aforementioned propeller hats (although that takes one sick puppy).

A search of http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ will undoubtably reveal more New Testament anti-Semitism.

[DAVEW0071]

I actually saw a panel show in which a bigot was trying to rationalize his views. It was scary, but one of the things he cited was that in one of his epistles, Paul mentions “the Jews who killed Christ.” I can’t find the book, chapter and verse now, but at the time I looked it up, and son-of-a-gun, it’s there, all right!

Thing is, in its context, it’s clear Paul is referring to the particular Jewish religious leaders who conspired against Jesus and arranged for his arrest and execution in collusion with the local Roman authorities. Not all Jews everywhere. This should be obvious anyway, since Paul would have been implicating himself and most of the comtemporary missionaries/theologians.

But this idiot had decided the Bible validated his hatred of Jews. You can make any document prove anything if you try hard enough, I s’pose.