Take a sledge hammer and smash your computer to bits.
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Umm, yeah… so Frosty posts this in MPSIMS:
And RR pits him here:
And you call that an inside joke? Unless there’s something I’m missing, it seems like Rand is being a jerk - even if it’s in the pit.
My 2¢.
Hmm. I didn’t think you were a troll before but I am starting to have my doubts now.
The coincidental timing of your thread, which contained fantastical claims, to line up perfectly with the Umkay debacle; followed by a deliberate effort to let everyone here on the board know that you are attempting to go away.
“No, no don’t go. Don’t let those few jerks here ruin it for you.”
“I’m sorry for your loss. Please stay. We want you.”
If you really did just lose your entire family, why would you even bother with all this? Just fuckn’ forget about this stupid message board.
You could request that a mod chnge your username to something unremarkable and then ban you. That’s about as close as you could get I think, if they would even do that.
I’m sure TubaDiva did not look at Frosty Camel’s posting history and try to figure out what might have motivated the desire to delete his account. (As opposed to me.) I’m sure she just saw the request, and put in a blanket statement of typical reasons people find this board less than easy to settle in to.
Are you aware of the whole umkaydebacle? Because that’s what is on everyone’s mind, and certainly colors Rand Rover’s response.
Wouldn’t work, because the OP of the thread in question would just be renamed. Since the username is something anonymous anyway, the easy answer is “just stop posting”. I suppose go to user profile and hide your email, if you have it visible. Don’t have any links in your profile to your name or blog or website. Etc.
Little known fact.
Go to your user page, highlight your user name and hit Ctrl W. It will go away. Promise.
Let me make sure I got this straight.
Guy says that a week ago his entire family was wiped out by a drunk driver.
And he’s over here just to post about it?
While I guess that’s possible – hell, I once knew a guy who lost a wife in a car crash for real, somebody t-boned her truck while she was on her way to the store. Their 3 month old baby was in the truck with her and survived, although the wife did not. Three weeks later the guy was dating, he started seeing one of the nurses he met at the ER, in fact.
I was horrified by that but it was pointed out to me two things that sort of put it in perspective:
- She was as dead as she was gonna be.
- This guy had four children, most of them very young, including a baby, and he had no clue as to how to care for them or what to do with them and hold down a job too.
My hand to Jesus, I did not make any of that up, it was a real life incident.
So he might be telling the truth. And then, Jain, you would be correct, it’s inappropriate and mean to poke at someone in distress like that.
Then again, he could be just screwing with all of us. You have to wonder about someone who would need to invent such a tragedy and post it on the internet for people to read and react to. And if that’s the case, especially in view of some of the BS we’ve had to deal with in the past few days, then he deserves our scorn.
I can’t tell, to be honest with you.
So let’s take the high road here, okay?
Frosty Camel, whatever is going on with you, go with god, for real, man.
You need to be talking to people closer to you who can actually help you one way or the other. I ain’t judging which but whatever form it is, pastor, therapist, bereavement group, psychiatrist, counselor – go for it. 'Cause you need to be talking to SOMEBODY.
Because whatever is going on here, this is so not our job.
The staff is going to talk this over and we’ll figure out whether we should help you out the door or not. You’re welcome to write us and explain … or not.
Nor can I but I was taking Rand at his word that he had information that Frosty’s story OP was true.
Hey look, I love Tuba as much as anybody and I’m not snarking it just seems if a poster has his (or her) knickers in a twist over board issues to the point they want to delete their account someone in her position might want to look over the history before offering a flip reply. Plus, I did provide links. But hey, no sweat off me… I was just surprised by what seemed to me to be a callous answer. Carry on and all.
Yep, read all of both threads. Don’t really see how that is relevant if RR knows Frosty’s story is in fact real.
For the record I did not look at their posts – I did look and see that it was a recent registration and figured that the weather just didn’t suit their clothes here, as happens, as happens quite a bit.
A lot of newbies come here, check out the site, find they don’t like it for whatever reason, and then ask for removal/deletion/whatever. I saw nothing to make me think this was any different.
If my responses offended people, wasn’t meant that way. Not to Frosty Camel or anyone else.
Well said.
EDIT: The only thing that changes for me from my perspective is the second sentence. For me it would read “I suspected you were a troll before and this just adds to the suspicion.”
And why do you come here complaining about how all those gyms are violating your civil rights just because you are in a wheelchair?
I mean really. Don’t you have REAL people in the REAL world to talk about this with?
I didn’t read RandRover’s thread, only your comment here, so I didn’t see where you were getting that RR knew his story was real. But since you said it twice, I had to look at the thread to see what you meant. Okay. (Or should that be umkay?)
You asked if you were missing something. The thing that came to mind was the situation where we just had a rigamarole over a sentimentality troll. I assumed you hadn’t seen that, and thus didn’t realize why RR might be calling this person out as a sentimentality troll. But since you did see it, I guess you aren’t missing anything.
I’m not sure RR’s behavior veers into board rules violating jerkitude. I mean, it’s kinda jerky to tell a person “I don’t believe you”, but it’s also a legitimate reaction to being told something that sounds too close to standard troll patterns. Also, it’s fair to question other poster’s motives in the Pit.
You’re fucking kidding right?
Your entire family dying is equivalent to something that he’s even shown us (if I’m not mistaken) he has acted upon? He didn’t just talk the talk about “omg my liberties”, he actually did things about it.
Also nevermind that he’s since stopped with the civil rights and all such related talk and has become a more or less normal member around these parts. And also still, he managed not to get banned for being a troll by not actually being a troll.
No I am not. Can you read? And the main thing he did was piss people off and get kicked out IMO.
I did not say they were equivalent. The point is why is his personal stuff worth talking about but Frosty’s isn’t? Where do we draw the line? Just recently I’ve seen people asking for advice on a marriage going bad, a very good friend dieing, and incident of possible cheating.
And in the past it’s been discussions about the death of a kid, a spouse, moms, dads, friends, former posters here, a near comatose son, rape victims, victims of child abuse, pedophiles, holy fucking crap on a stick disfunctional families and on and on.
Why are ALL these things AOKAY to talk about here but NOT wife and kids all gone? Is that some magical combination that’s over the line?
Hell, I could make an arguement that its only the BIG stuff that should get advice here and people bitching about the piddly shit just need to grow a pair and go somewhere else.
Don’t get me wrong. The probability of Frosty being a troll is certainly not very low. But the arguement that problems like that shouldn’t even be brought here is weak to say the least.
You people are incredible, and I don’t mean that in a good way. I understand that this board was recently massively trolled by umkay, but does that mean that ANYONE who comes here with a tragic story is automatically a troll?
It absolutely pisses me off that I have to defend myself here. Who here is a fucking expert on how a man in his late 30’s is supposed to act when his entire life is wiped out in one swift stroke? I’m not. I’m the one whos life changed in pretty much a blink of an eye and even I don’t know how I’m supposed to act. How could you guys? Everything I have posted on this board is the truth.
Yes I am a new member that nobody here knows. Should that matter? Look on the docket of any traffic court in the country and I’m sure you will find a few DWI’s. I’m sure that people get arrested for drunk driving every single damn day. I’m sure somebody, or multiple people, get killed by a drunk driver every day. Is it inconceivable that a young punk kid would decided to drink and drive and a new poster here’s family pays the price? There’s a huge different between being skeptical and being so insular in your world that anything that might be out of the ordinary is automatically false in your eyes.
I’m not an expert on troll behavior either, but let me say this: I have made exactly 1 post about my family and 2 posts, including this one, defending myself. It seems to me that someone looking for attention or trying to get a reaction or stir up some shit would be posting a hell of a lot more than that. That’s 3 posts on this subject in 4 days. I would say that’s about as non attention seeking as you can get.
This is the first message board I’ve ever joined. I don’t know how these things work (but I’m learning). Hell I had to Google “troll” just so I would know what everyone was talking about. Is it so surprising that after the treatment I have received here that I would want to just delete everything? Is that what a troll does? It seems to me (again, I’m not an expert) that someone seeking attention would want to ride it as long as possible. I just want the posts about my family to be gone from here. I do not want a post about my family (as general as it is) associated with a board where a man is accused of trolling, dishonesty, and attention seeking at the absolute lowest point in his entire life.
Again, you people are incredible.
What lead you to post about your tragedy at this particular message board?
Because I thought (silly me) that someone here might have had a similar tragedy and could offer some support. That wasn’t my first post here. I found this place about a week before the accident and posted several times before. It was the first time I was alone since the accident and I wanted to talk to someone. Anyone. Won’t happen again. At least not here.
Besides the fact that the board has just gone through a massive episode of trolling from umkay, you have to realize that nothing that is posted here in a vacuum.
Members of this board (mostly) understand how the internet works, and aren’t afraid to use Google to suss out details of a story to learn more about a story that’s as intensely dramatic as yours. Fact is, if a woman and her three children are killed by a drunk driver in this country (and it appears that you are in this country, though I could be wrong), it makes the national news.
When they Google the facts as you’ve presented them, and find nothing, you have to understand why this makes your story suspect.
To be clear, I’m NOT asking you for personal details or a link to the news story. I’m just trying to explain how we got here.
Indeed. You may not be a troll, but I’m confused by why you thought that this would be a good subject to post about here (or anywhere for that matter if you are unfamiliar with MB in general). The entire world (theoretically) can read about this on message boards, and something that personal isn’t something most people want to share with the world.